That has to be a true statement. Governments have had plenty of time to walk back their lies and have not. In the USA they don't care because they can now cheat in elections, so there are no consequences for these crooks. I am assuming, that is the case in the rest of the Western world too.
Governance exists to remove liberty and steal money, resources from plebs. Always has done and always will do.
"Democracy" is a cog in the tyranny of governance. People have been programmed to believe that democracy and governance are pro liberty when the exact opposite is true.
As everywhere to those who don’t talk jibberish, but proper meaningful language. Udi Qimron, Michal Haran, Moshe Feiglin, Ella Nave, Pinkie Feinstein etc.
My chinese in laws keep wondering if the shots are so deadly why are they not dead yet after taking 5. Meanwhile my wife had growths in her breasts months after taking the J&J shot. My neighbor in her late 60's just collapsed dead after passing her doctor check up the day before. She had the shots. My dad and brother are both having immune system reactions to the shot but I am ok after passing on every shot. Strange times....
People survive a lot. There were people from Josef Mengele trials that even had children afterwards. Having some healthy survivors means just this poison does not kill everybody. So what? Had it killed everybody, it really would not be possible to impose this on people.
As long as you don't die from COVID then your death is OK? Right? How messed up are these people? How do you ignore the stunning all cause mortality stats? So get the vaccine and die from a variety of horrible things but not from COVID. Actually, they die from that too. What could possibly be going on in the heads of these Western health bureaucrats?
I think we’re all potentially missing the wood for the trees here. The injectables were meant to protect people from Covid. Therefore there shouldn’t be any Covid deaths in the vaccinated group. The ONS is claiming a win for the vaccines on the basis there were slightly fewer deaths per hundred thousand in the vaccinated versus unvaccinated. It’s a preposterous claim.
Since the stats gatherers get to define the Cause of Death, and can modify treatment based on vaccination status, it is trivial for the stats to be manipulated. Your charts at the end are interesting.
When someone pointed out that the Stats Canada death and vaccination statistics indicated the vaccinated more likely to die the government had Stats Canada change how the statistics were done so it removed the indication that vaccinated were more likely to die.
I think one of the big issues with this data is the denominator they are using for unvaxxed. Their figures for unvaxxed numbers may be underestimating the actual number by half -- that's how much they vary from UKHSA numbers--which means death rates in unvaxxed would be double the actual rate.
However, looking at some Twitter threads with Sarah Caul, it does look like they still have some systematic miscategorisation as a result of missing NIMS records, despite correcting a few thousand since last time.
Hey Joel I plotted some US variables over time, based on your idea of looking at pre-2021 vaccine benefit.
The website is a disaster, it's for my private use. Will probably take forever to load, but there are a few charts (well hundreds) that plot vaccine efficacy from Q4 2019 to Q3 2022.
If you download the actual numbers, they reveal the level of manipulation being used to make the graphs and write the reports. The unvaccinated COVID-related deaths are never more than the vaccinated COVID-related deaths. For All Cause deaths on table 1, in April when things were just starting to heat up, the unvaccinated deaths were 3,556; ever vaccinated (any dose level) deaths were 27,980! Deaths involving COVID in the unvaxed were 230; ever vaxed were 505. As far as I can see, the only change as you go through time is that the ratio between unvaxed and vaxed deaths keeps going up. As a retired RN I can tell you that the flu deaths were being falsely elevated prior to COVID, which is, of course, why the flu appeared to disappear during COVID. Knowing this makes me totally distrust the COVID-related death numbers, even though I'm not in the hospital witnessing it.
I think the ONS do this intentionally, releasing data in a confusing way or missing pieces of the puzzle making it confusing or hard to analyse properly ..... they don't outright "lie", but they don't really "tell the truth" either. Overall mortality is the important measure, but they try to confuse the picture by still talking about deaths "from" Covid, whatever that means. And in terms of excesses they need to be watched carefully because they might include the high number of deaths seen in spring2020 into the basline mortality figures, but current excesses should be viewed relative to pre Covid, not including 2020
Yeah, I used to follow flu season trends, they used to make pretty graphs etc... Now you have to download each month yourself and get a pencil out, it's an outrage. We pay these people to make pretty graphs on time.
So you're more likely to die if vaccinated, than if not. Same here in New Zealand.
Regarding Covid deaths, these can be easily manipulated by death certificate obfuscation. My mother died of Covid, even after becoming test negative. It was listed as one of 4 causes of death in her death certificate but her nursing did not classify it as a Covid death. Total BS. It just so happens 5 residents died in 7 days coincidently, 3-4 weeks after a Covid outbreak.
Meh - what I'm seeing is broad humps of increased mortality in the unvaccinated at vaccination times. Again leading back to the disingenuous practice of only declaring someone vaccinated after 14 days, when deaths occur shortly after administration.
Matt that is an uncharitable action towards your fellow human beings. I hope you come to recognise that without charity you lack the ability to truly love another.
I disagree. The reason Western white nations are dying because the "chosen" monsters have taken over our governments and institutions, by replacing us with low IQ animals...is because of misplaced empathy which is weakness.
We are less than 6% of the worlds population yet we must take in all these dangerous, animalistic creatures?! But Israel doesn't?! Look up Barbara Spectre and Noel Ignatiev, rabbi shmuley Botaich, and Adam Green on bitchute. Maybe you need to learn the full scope of what we're up against and why people like me area ANGRY and will provide ZERO quarter to traitors.
Better pull your head out of your ass and black pill yourself. We're being replaced because we're too weak and it's INFURIATING!
SYMPATHY for tyrants and our enemies is not only weak but it's genetic suicide. Anyone, especially my Caucasian brethren who refuse to acknowledge this... And are pathetic enough to believe in Christianity, deserve what is coming their way.
ALL of this garbage of one world government is an abrahamic death cult agenda. Engineered by self proclaimed chosen status demons and carried out by Christian stupidity. Pure weakness.
The information is out there but you people are so embarrassingly traitorous to your own people, it's nauseating. You refuse to investigate the full scope of this psy op.
So if you didn't listen to us then, and took the jab. Good. Suffer and die. It's the consequence you deserve and I couldn't care less that since weak soft loser on the internet is too much a pussy to take a real stand.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Good riddance
People like me were screaming from day one the entire Rockefeller operation lockstep/event 201 drill was complete fabrication. If was all nonsense. GoF, all of it. They manipulated the data and used the pharmaceutical whore press and government agents to make the final push towards agenda 2030. Period. End of story.
Anyone who gets ill or dies from their own stupidity deserves all of it. And every last scum sucking bootlicker that tried to force me to mask up or think shaming me was effective.
Looking at your addendum chart, it is, I think, not coincidental, that the very sharp inflexion in alleged 'Covid' deaths in the 18-39 age group occurs exactly 1 month after the Covid booster campaign was extended to all adults over 18. The boosters are responsible for the massive increase in infections and mortality it would seem, which adds to the already elevated rate of all cause mortality created by the first two jabs. As observed in the US, the healthy working age population (who were never significantly at risk of severe Covid) have been severely affected by this indiscriminate mass rollout.
Have a look at Peter Nylands Substack- just released a post on the recent published paper, tracking the vaccination status by deaths and disability data, some very interesting graphs and stats that I think would cross-reference with this UK data. Plus it would be very interesting comparison.
With this level of lies the democracy does not make any sense. Governments are people's worst enemies.
It should never be called "Un-Vaccinated", it most always be called "Never Vaccinated".
Why ?... Billy Bob III had his last booster 22 days ago = Un-Vaccinated
Getting how their tricks work ?
That has to be a true statement. Governments have had plenty of time to walk back their lies and have not. In the USA they don't care because they can now cheat in elections, so there are no consequences for these crooks. I am assuming, that is the case in the rest of the Western world too.
Alas, elections are meaningless even if they are fair. https://planetdecentral.substack.com/p/the-corruption-of-city-of-london
Elections are still some kind of oportunity, but almost always futile.
The main thing now is to choose wisely Your doc, if You need one. And of course our tribe.
There is no election, it is always selection!
You need to be your own doctor.
Governance exists to remove liberty and steal money, resources from plebs. Always has done and always will do.
"Democracy" is a cog in the tyranny of governance. People have been programmed to believe that democracy and governance are pro liberty when the exact opposite is true.
Saying things like this in the US can get one put on an "anti-government terrorist list"
Ya but in the Middle East the directive is the same from monarchy. So who do you turn to?
You don't have to "turn to" governance/a daddy/ruler. That is the entire point.
As everywhere to those who don’t talk jibberish, but proper meaningful language. Udi Qimron, Michal Haran, Moshe Feiglin, Ella Nave, Pinkie Feinstein etc.
My chinese in laws keep wondering if the shots are so deadly why are they not dead yet after taking 5. Meanwhile my wife had growths in her breasts months after taking the J&J shot. My neighbor in her late 60's just collapsed dead after passing her doctor check up the day before. She had the shots. My dad and brother are both having immune system reactions to the shot but I am ok after passing on every shot. Strange times....
People survive a lot. There were people from Josef Mengele trials that even had children afterwards. Having some healthy survivors means just this poison does not kill everybody. So what? Had it killed everybody, it really would not be possible to impose this on people.
It depends on the batch that determines the severity of the toxin exposure.
Also disease manifestation is a multi factorial process.
Different individuals exposed to the same toxin react in a different way.
As long as you don't die from COVID then your death is OK? Right? How messed up are these people? How do you ignore the stunning all cause mortality stats? So get the vaccine and die from a variety of horrible things but not from COVID. Actually, they die from that too. What could possibly be going on in the heads of these Western health bureaucrats?
Complicity in a planned, coordinated, organized campaign of worldwide GENOCIDE at the behest of globalist psychopaths. That’s what’s on their minds.
I completely agree, that is the only explanation.
I think we’re all potentially missing the wood for the trees here. The injectables were meant to protect people from Covid. Therefore there shouldn’t be any Covid deaths in the vaccinated group. The ONS is claiming a win for the vaccines on the basis there were slightly fewer deaths per hundred thousand in the vaccinated versus unvaccinated. It’s a preposterous claim.
Since the stats gatherers get to define the Cause of Death, and can modify treatment based on vaccination status, it is trivial for the stats to be manipulated. Your charts at the end are interesting.
When someone pointed out that the Stats Canada death and vaccination statistics indicated the vaccinated more likely to die the government had Stats Canada change how the statistics were done so it removed the indication that vaccinated were more likely to die.
I think one of the big issues with this data is the denominator they are using for unvaxxed. Their figures for unvaxxed numbers may be underestimating the actual number by half -- that's how much they vary from UKHSA numbers--which means death rates in unvaxxed would be double the actual rate.
Indeed. Igor has already set this out briefly - https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/ons-data-25-excess-mortality-among
Including recently vaxxed who die (unvaccinated for the first 14 days) in the unvaccinated numbers will continue to skew the stats
I don't think they do that any more, not for this bulletin at any rate.
However, looking at some Twitter threads with Sarah Caul, it does look like they still have some systematic miscategorisation as a result of missing NIMS records, despite correcting a few thousand since last time.
Hey Joel I plotted some US variables over time, based on your idea of looking at pre-2021 vaccine benefit.
The website is a disaster, it's for my private use. Will probably take forever to load, but there are a few charts (well hundreds) that plot vaccine efficacy from Q4 2019 to Q3 2022.
https://usa-correlations.pervaers.com/
Pick:
- Mortality: 0+
- Vaccine variable: any dose final rate
As measurement pick:
- COVID cases
- COVID deaths
- Weekly excess deaths
Or if you don't like the idea, I screenshotted the three charts and uploaded them:
https://substack.pervaers.com/USA_Misc/temp_final_rate_0p_new_cases.png
https://substack.pervaers.com/USA_Misc/temp_final_rate_0p_new_deaths.png
https://substack.pervaers.com/USA_Misc/temp_final_rate_0p_weekly_excess_deaths.png
Thank you again for your absolutely brilliant idea!
If you download the actual numbers, they reveal the level of manipulation being used to make the graphs and write the reports. The unvaccinated COVID-related deaths are never more than the vaccinated COVID-related deaths. For All Cause deaths on table 1, in April when things were just starting to heat up, the unvaccinated deaths were 3,556; ever vaccinated (any dose level) deaths were 27,980! Deaths involving COVID in the unvaxed were 230; ever vaxed were 505. As far as I can see, the only change as you go through time is that the ratio between unvaxed and vaxed deaths keeps going up. As a retired RN I can tell you that the flu deaths were being falsely elevated prior to COVID, which is, of course, why the flu appeared to disappear during COVID. Knowing this makes me totally distrust the COVID-related death numbers, even though I'm not in the hospital witnessing it.
I think the ONS do this intentionally, releasing data in a confusing way or missing pieces of the puzzle making it confusing or hard to analyse properly ..... they don't outright "lie", but they don't really "tell the truth" either. Overall mortality is the important measure, but they try to confuse the picture by still talking about deaths "from" Covid, whatever that means. And in terms of excesses they need to be watched carefully because they might include the high number of deaths seen in spring2020 into the basline mortality figures, but current excesses should be viewed relative to pre Covid, not including 2020
Yeah, I used to follow flu season trends, they used to make pretty graphs etc... Now you have to download each month yourself and get a pencil out, it's an outrage. We pay these people to make pretty graphs on time.
So you're more likely to die if vaccinated, than if not. Same here in New Zealand.
Regarding Covid deaths, these can be easily manipulated by death certificate obfuscation. My mother died of Covid, even after becoming test negative. It was listed as one of 4 causes of death in her death certificate but her nursing did not classify it as a Covid death. Total BS. It just so happens 5 residents died in 7 days coincidently, 3-4 weeks after a Covid outbreak.
Meh - what I'm seeing is broad humps of increased mortality in the unvaccinated at vaccination times. Again leading back to the disingenuous practice of only declaring someone vaccinated after 14 days, when deaths occur shortly after administration.
Ty Joel keep up the brilliant work. I feel sorry for the health care professionals who’d been forced to take the jab and continue to serve us.
Unless anyone was physically restrained and injected against their will via force... Then not a single person was forced.
People complied out of fear. No pity for any of them
Matt that is an uncharitable action towards your fellow human beings. I hope you come to recognise that without charity you lack the ability to truly love another.
I don't care about your weakness
I hardly think showing compassion is a Sign of weakness
I disagree. The reason Western white nations are dying because the "chosen" monsters have taken over our governments and institutions, by replacing us with low IQ animals...is because of misplaced empathy which is weakness.
We are less than 6% of the worlds population yet we must take in all these dangerous, animalistic creatures?! But Israel doesn't?! Look up Barbara Spectre and Noel Ignatiev, rabbi shmuley Botaich, and Adam Green on bitchute. Maybe you need to learn the full scope of what we're up against and why people like me area ANGRY and will provide ZERO quarter to traitors.
Better pull your head out of your ass and black pill yourself. We're being replaced because we're too weak and it's INFURIATING!
SYMPATHY for tyrants and our enemies is not only weak but it's genetic suicide. Anyone, especially my Caucasian brethren who refuse to acknowledge this... And are pathetic enough to believe in Christianity, deserve what is coming their way.
ALL of this garbage of one world government is an abrahamic death cult agenda. Engineered by self proclaimed chosen status demons and carried out by Christian stupidity. Pure weakness.
The information is out there but you people are so embarrassingly traitorous to your own people, it's nauseating. You refuse to investigate the full scope of this psy op.
So if you didn't listen to us then, and took the jab. Good. Suffer and die. It's the consequence you deserve and I couldn't care less that since weak soft loser on the internet is too much a pussy to take a real stand.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Good riddance
People like me were screaming from day one the entire Rockefeller operation lockstep/event 201 drill was complete fabrication. If was all nonsense. GoF, all of it. They manipulated the data and used the pharmaceutical whore press and government agents to make the final push towards agenda 2030. Period. End of story.
Anyone who gets ill or dies from their own stupidity deserves all of it. And every last scum sucking bootlicker that tried to force me to mask up or think shaming me was effective.
Sheep can't shame me
You might want to read Prof Fenton on these data.
https://wherearethenumbers.substack.com/
Looking at your addendum chart, it is, I think, not coincidental, that the very sharp inflexion in alleged 'Covid' deaths in the 18-39 age group occurs exactly 1 month after the Covid booster campaign was extended to all adults over 18. The boosters are responsible for the massive increase in infections and mortality it would seem, which adds to the already elevated rate of all cause mortality created by the first two jabs. As observed in the US, the healthy working age population (who were never significantly at risk of severe Covid) have been severely affected by this indiscriminate mass rollout.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-59465577
Have a look at Peter Nylands Substack- just released a post on the recent published paper, tracking the vaccination status by deaths and disability data, some very interesting graphs and stats that I think would cross-reference with this UK data. Plus it would be very interesting comparison.