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When the DEATHVAX was just being rolled out in NYC I would be walking my bulldog, and people would ask if they could pet him. I'd always ask if they were "vaccinated," and if their replies were in the affirmative I would always reject their requests.

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If shedding is real and significant, it's not just us at risk, it's our pets too. I wouldn't let anybody who I knew was recently jabbed/boosted anywhere near me or my two dogs.

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yes, i was thinking about both myself and my dog.

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Could be mere 'coincidence', but it sounds suspicious. Poor dog.

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How did people react? I love this.

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Shocked, vexed and indignant, but I'm sufficiently antisocial enough that it amused me.

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Oh no 2SG, you are a "People Person." I am getting a t-shirt made with "I'm A People Person" on the front. The back says, "I've Already Told You Once." 😉

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I've watched people shrink from me patting their dogs (unvaxxed)...I wonder.

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Late spring 2021 everyone in my office (except for me and a couple of others) was getting jabbed and I came down with bad case of shingles. We’ve always thought that this was caused by shedding.

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Be careful if are considering getting the shingles vax. It has a FDA black box warning for Guillain-Barre Syndrome. Your doctor won't tell you. Mine didn't. Luckily I had printed out the news release and showed her. Too many seconds of silence passed. She either didn't know or she was surprised to find out I had enough brain cells to actually be aware of something.

https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/safety-availability-biologics/fda-requires-warning-about-guillain-barre-syndrome-gbs-be-included-prescribing-information-shingrix

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Thanks for that info and awesome response to your doctor. I'm going to do the same - print that out and give it to them. My doctor offers that Shingles vaccine every time I'm in the office - just got bombarded with multiple requests at my last annual physical in October. That vaccine has never made sense to me...

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Yeah, I lost all faith in my doctor by her response.

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I worked for years for 2 hard core criminal orgs, GSK, and a legacy company of Pfizer. GSK knowingly criminally killed 400,000 people with its deadly billion dollar a year diabetes blockbuster Avandia. I had thousands of dollars every quarter to use to buy physicians. My undergrad is in bioelectrical engineering, and I was shocked by how little physicians know about healing, Big Pharma owns their minds, and most I wouldn't want treating a pet I owned. Shingles is hardly a big deal. It's the chicken pox virus so if you had chicken pox as a child you may get an outbreak of shingles if your immunity is weakened. I had one once. It was a bit painful but hardly worth taking a vaccine to prevent.

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I had to ask myself this question.

Do I want to put up with shingles?

Or, do I want to take a vax that could possibly cause Guillain-Barre Syndrome that could cause complete paralysis and put me in a nursing home eating mashed up food, wearing a diaper, and wishing for death at some point to put me out of my misery?

I prefer shingles.

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I had shingles and it's no fun but they have anti-virals that kick it to the curb quickly. I took it and the next morning I was feeling better. So my risk/benefit went like this:

I may not get shingles again and if I do there are early treatments that work great or I can take 2 shots over a 5 year period before a certain age for a supposed 75% reduction. Early treatment IF I ever need it was my choice.

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Here is a really good article I read on treating shingles..

http://www.orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v09n17.shtml

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Dec 4, 2022Liked by Joel Smalley

Interesting. I had an identical experience in the autumn of 2021 when vaccines were being rolled out here. Because I had previously had a bout of shingles at an earlier but also extremely stressful period in my life, I did not make that connection. By the time I figured out it was shingles and went to the doctor, I was beyond the window for the shingles vaccine to be effective. My doctor told me that and then gave me the product to take home anyway. It sits on my bathroom shelf and reminds me how doctors are not really about our health anymore.

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I got EBV, CMV and Shingles, after contact with physiotherapist recently vaccinated.

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I agree. Same happened to me in February of this year right after lots of people were getting coosted in January. (I found out at the time that two boosted people of folks I knew also came down with shingles and they had really bad cases.) I'll always believe it was from being around newly fuxxinated.

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Yep...shingles shows up in VAERS as an adverse event.

But those are only the people who actually made the connection between the two.

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5 unvaccinated people in my family got shingles by then. We also got "the soon to be vaccinated virus" (RSV), which we hadn't had in our lives.

Something is happening to unvaccinated people, around vaccinated ones.

And let's not forget hepatitis in unvaccinated babies and toddlers.

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This pisses me off greatly, I have to admit, even the possibility that there might be some danger of cross-contamination from the jabbed. People went to extreme lengths and often endured harsh peer criticism, ostracisation, prejudice, hateful publicity and even social isolation for choosing bodily autonomy over coerced medical experimentation. Now those who didn't, and those who took part in that witch hunt against the unjabbed, may expose us to the very toxins which we sought to avoid; thus we have to live with fear and uncertainty and further voluntary social isolation until such time as we know for sure, and that may not be for years. Gee, thanks guys, so nice of you to 'protect yourself and protect others', especially dear old granny, whilst making Pfizer rich and contributing to the most catastrophic medical, economic, psychological and societal crisis ever to be visited upon humanity.

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Yes, we unjabbed are all pissed off. But I reckon a couple more years of solitude will still be better than becoming a shedding victim on a daily basis - just so we can go back to the office. I turned down an otherwise nice job offer a few weeks ago because they would not let me work remotely. But honestly, at least part of my desire to remain a remote worker isn't about being around the jabbed all day in an office, it's about wasting 2+ hours of my precious (unpaid) time every day sitting in traffic during rush hour. So, I don't mind waiting a couple more years. They will mostly all have expired from the various manifestations of vaxx damage by then, and consequently the roads will be much less congested during rush hour too.

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I hear you Free Human, those 2 hours lost in commuting are the quality of life difference. Offices are usually too noisy for me think in so the quality of my work goes down. Home to do a few minutes of gardening or laundry or cleaning as a break. We will see a great decline in all manufacturing due to this genocide, but a great increase in home gardens and home food production. But also, the roads will probably go to hell, if other folks stay home too. Maybe they will find no one who will install the 5g Lights, no one to fight the wars, and all work will be by conscription? All governments bust by 2032 according to David Martin, on Man in America interview, good.

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Dec 4, 2022Liked by Joel Smalley

I've been working with jabbed (also sick all the time) people for the past year and a half. I am hoping the ivermectin I take routinely will help ward off the jab shedding. There is one other woman I know who is not jabbed...we saw each other the other day and hugged!! It felt so good. We both know...

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Just curious - how often do you dose yourself with Ivermectin? I have read elsewhere in the past that a dose has a 3-day half life, but I can't find the source for that any more. I know it's one of the safest medicines around, but I would still hate to have to medicate myself every 3 days just to go to work in an office. The expense and hassle of finding a constant supply would also suck....

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Twice a week. I use the apple flavored horse paste :-). One brand is just pure ivermectin. You tube video will tell you how many lines per weight to dose. Go to a feed store, or order from Amazon.

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Yeah, I bought a bunch of it over a year ago to have on hand, "just in case", but I hate the idea of having to take it twice a week just to go to work. Tastes like hell too, even camouflaged w/ peanut butter toast :)

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Well, I like the flavor, and it is also a prophylactic...I haven't gotten Covid, and I hope it spares me the shedding...I am around chronically sick people all the time, and manage to remain very healthy despite...

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Ivermectin (product name: Stromectol) is used as an anthelmintic (taken on an empty stomach) with a peak of 4-5 hours, a half-life of 18 hours (by Wikipedia), and a body concentration of about 0 in about 12 days.

However, according to the FLCCC-Protocol for SarsCov2, it should be taken with food (because it is lipid-soluble, it is better absorbed).

I have been taking it for prevention from time to time according to the FLCCC protocol since this spring, but the only problem is that there is no clinical trial data on how many sides of the maximum and longest safe doses are.

1 mg/kg of body weight * daily * Safe for 6 months: de Castro et al. (2020) There is also a paper called Leukemia.

There is also a paper stating that a single dose of up to 2 mg/kg of body weight is safe.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370(21)00239-X/fulltext

However, since it is an oral drug that enters the body, and the liver is also used for metabolism and excretion, it is better to use less than for treatment and prevention.

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I just figuredc2 cfc tomes a weak f4om the prophylactic syudies done in 2020 summer

..dont think it hurt me .

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I just posted the same sentiment and my screen refreshed and your comment popped up. DITTO. I'm so mad.

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I think this is going to be the most common reaction from the unjabbed when they learn that they're at real risk because other people wet the bed, accepted being blackmailed to take part in a huge medical experiment and/or pretended to be good citizens when their government greatly exaggerated a small risk. We, the unjabbed, have suffered psychologically because of the majority's stupidity, gullibility and intellectual laziness in just accepting what they were told by the 'experts'; now it looks like OUR health may be at risk because of THEIR bad decisions.

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Ironic given that’s the exact accusation we were dragged for (putting everyone else at risk).

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It appears that the distinction of "unjabbed" to "jabbed" might be a complete illusion; one benefit of this whole scamdemic is the revelations in RFK Jnr's magnum opus of the massive increase in auto immune diseases since WWII; he very clearly points the finger at the Pharma driven, Health Quango supported campaigns for vaccines despite very sharp declines in viral diseases - eg Measles; how can it be medically imperative, never mind ethical and moral, to administer a vaccine ( however formulated) as a panacea to a disease that poses nowhere near the threat in decades before?

The link between gastrointestinal and autoimmune conditions has been made; the brain and the gut are inextricably linked. As the gentleman ex GSK /Pfizer subsidiary has openly stated, the Pharma cartel cannot be trusted - from repeated "doses" of gross malpractice, massive punitive fines - and still these malfeasances continue.

I do not want to extrapolate to convince "myself" that 2+2 =4; however, it cannot be ignored that anyone who has had a panacea "vaccine" since, say, the 1960's onwards may have had their health compromised to some degree. To distinguish, since SARS COV2 escaped from Wuhan, "jabbed" and unjabbed" is a tad wishful thinking and, dare I say, induced psyops fear manifesting itself?

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Fair point, except for the fact that the other vaccines weren't gene therapies using mRNA and LNP tech. But yes I take your point.

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Dec 5, 2022·edited Dec 5, 2022

I was being Devil's Advocate but only slightly; I am jabbed because of highly personal reasons which I now acknowledge to have been made spurious ( a simplistic, non detailed one sentence explanation of a very complex personal medical event that has plagued me for well over 10 years ). I am also vaccinated to some other degree because my parents took that decision as I was a minor; I am one of many millions of similar kids now adults. I have no clear idea if my immune system is shite because the medical profession is not disposed, historically, to test for this - they only dispense within guidelines foisted by (In the UK ) NICE and/or Big Pharma brainwashing; I do know that I have developed a very severe auto immune condition in the last several years ( pre SARS COV2 ) and once I discovered that Pfizer lied about this condition in their pre EUA non existent trial - I was immediately "at risk" but I cannot be certain enough either way so after a massive amount of personal research - leading to where I "am" today - I determined never ever ever again ( including any and all vaccinations, I'll take my chance thanks) as now my eyes are wide open ( but still I feel, strongly and from my "gut", I cannot rely on the medical profession/Pharma/Pharmacists so the "cleft stick" is fully operational.

FWIW, I think all concerned here and on other blogs are screaming very loud for honesty, ethics and moral fibre from those in positions of trust; how folks needing urgent medical care make informed decisions for themselves is now even more bloody difficult and made far far more so by a compromised medical nexus ( who in large part I now know "just do not know" enough about anything ......) this has to stop, now, and if it means the US is finished ( because "they" are imho 100% complicit ) and has to be "remade", so be it. This drama has only just started in many respects. Sermon over.

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Yup. My feelings precisely. Exactly. It pisses me off so much I am overcome with anger and this makes me often unable to even find the words because I'm so angry. Thank you for finding the words and expressing this.

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What is the difference between "shedding" and transmission?

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I'm not a doctor and this is just what I have gathered from reading and it could easily be more complicated than this...

Vaxxed people supposedly excrete/shed the mutant spike proteins the "gene therapy injection" causes their bodies to produce and those spikes can be transmitted to an unvaxxed person who is in direct contact with them via the usual bodily fluids. Not sure if the shed spikes can be breathed out, become airborne and then breathed in by someone else like a whole virus particle can but many claim yes. I have personally had some transient weird symptoms for a few days after being around freshly boosted people and I did not touch them. So unless I picked up the spikes off a surface they'd touched, then I am guessing they probably can be airborne.

Transmission of the virus (or the shed spike proteins) is when another person's body comes into contact with those shed materials and absorbs them, presumably causing either damage from the mutant spikes or a sars-cov2 infection if it was the whole virus they absorbed. Either way, not a good thing.

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Dec 5, 2022·edited Dec 6, 2022

I am not a Doctor either, nor a Virologist nor Biologist. As I understand it the jab delivery system is LNP driven and not the spike protein itself being directly injected ( but both are toxic, being unnatural and provoking reactions within the body that are injurious); whether that is relevant - does the protein survive as a "live" entity, for example, I have zero idea. A lot of information above the effect/actions of these chimeric gene editing therapies, so called , especially about the induction of antibodies post injection, becomes less understandable to me as a non scientist the more detailed the information I read - very advanced biology just for starters. Can this be the same with spike protein 'shedding" - no clear idea - I have a hell of a time sussing out the merit of what I read - I think I have done OK, but then SARS COV2 shedding appears...

Why, for example of a bit of "settled science" possibly, is the emphasis ( from certain quarters ) about antibodies rather than T, B cell lymphocytes and leucocytes? Other, non SARS COV2, studies I have read, or précis's thereof, confirm that antibodies are NOT the key, 100% of the time, because viral infections can be defended by people with no antibodies to the particular virus and people with antibodies can still be infected......... Is this not the whole point about innate or acquired immunity by viral infection being superior ( because it matches the whole of the pathogenic spectrum thereof ) than "vaccine" acquired infection where it only enables a much smaller pathogenic target for the body to address ( appreciate not all vaccines are /have been gene therapy activated ). Immune priming - as I understand caused in part by selective targeting of the smaller (spike protein) entity versus the targeting of the widest spectrum of pathogens of the whole mutated virus (induced vs innate if you like) - is not new; I understand that previous "vaccines" have had this effect historically. Is this not at the back of the Great Barrington Declaration? Treat the vulnerable, take therapeutics, a good a diet as you can muster, exercise and "all things in moderation" and KCACO, taking care not to destroy your mental well being and the economy all at once.

Human body resistance to antibiotics may be wholly a different mechanism but the end effect is the same or very similar; resistance to a bug, or mutation of the same bug, derives from previous repeated injections whose action is ineffective from the over use of antibiotics.......anyone think that effect is coincidental?

How on earth is it expected that vaccines ( whether gene therapy of other ) be expected to match a continually mutating virus with any lead in time from the discovery of the mutation to development of said vaccine which, deliberately, has a very narrow target? Is this not one reason why many experts have said, time and time again, "Don't ever vaccinate your way out of a pandemic" It is the pharmacological equivalent of pinning the tail on the donkey - difference is one is deadly or has serious morbidity potential the other not. You screw with your millennia developed immune system and expose yourself to much harm, and at a far greater risk than the virus represents ( not being wise post event either).

How do I separate what I think I know from what I DO know and what has the basis of truth versus clever, devious mendacity? I ask myself that all the time.

I am not qualified in any way to comment about spike or any other proteins - it would be great for some immediate urgent research to be done or released where shedding of a LNP induced delivery system spike protein is shown to be "a thing" and what sensible steps should be taken; anyone any ideas if you have read this far?

What concerns me is that the lack of public information (as far as I know, being reasonably ignorant about this sub subject) might lead to "Chinese whispers" , accusations of "Tin Hat" warriors and the psyops stormtroopers of the globalist Secret Police will be laughing all the way to Davos next year. Andrew Wakefield may be many things , but he and his colleagues did find a link to gastrointestinal auto immune diseases post vaccination in children - does anyone think he was right to ask for more studies to be done or was he right to have his medical career terminated and exactly who orchestrated that - a body which is now compromised 100% - you can check that out here: https://www.gmc-uk.org/ethical-guidance/ethical-hub/covid-19-questions-and-answers#[Vaccines] or "other actors"??

CV 19 was "proved" to be transmissible by touching an infected surface ( e g Waitrose trolleys....) "Not so" is an understatement, just as the efficacy of the GET jabs was stated to be effective against infection, transmission and premature death; not denying there may be an issue with "shedding" but surely it behoves us all to think, very carefully, again and again, before we "shoot"? ( Mea culpa, not always great at that in the past)..apologies for splurging.

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There is no need to be humble about not being a doctor. An ordinary doctor is familiar with his specialty (e.g. heart, blood vessel, gastrointestinal, infectious disease, diabetes, gynecology, etc.) and prescription, but molecular biology such as this mRNA drug, genetic engineering, immunology (still in the early stages of development).

They are amateurs, or less than a studying amateur, in fields involving those fields.

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Thank you; the main reason I am subterraneanly sceptical about (GP) Doctors is because of the ignorance of one whose prescription ( after a very serious illness) was the major factor why I nearly died a matter of a short while later. I just wish they were more honest about how little they know as they stuff drugs into throats (or in this case into arms when they should have gone into throats........if they worked). Nuff said - for now.

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Shedding of mRNA vs transmission of the virus. That's my understanding.

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Dec 4, 2022·edited Dec 4, 2022Liked by Joel Smalley

Good summary. Spike protein is an intensely inflammatory protein and when passed to non-jabbed can be pathogenic, although certain supplements will help remove it. I'm not sure passed mRNA can get into cells without the LNP delivery system attached to it. Still, I'm happy to isolate from the jabbed for a while, especially the repeat offenders.

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That's why everyone, jabbed or not, should take Vitamin C, Niacin, NAC, resveratrol, fisetin, and pine needle tea.

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I've been doing all that and then some, ivermectin profolaxing too, patients get boosted, I get 10 day cycles!

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Dec 4, 2022Liked by Joel Smalley

Last year at a Xmas luncheon, a friend announced receiving his covid vaxx that day. I said, I am sorry but I could not sit next to him, as he was shedding. Here is what happened next.. The guy looked at me like I was mad, he and his wife gave me the silent treatment for quite a while, and it took about six months to patch up our friendship. What did I learn from this encounter? I learned I would do the

exact same thing, in a nanosecond. That is how strongly I sense these experimental biologicals are pure and simply dangerous.

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My partner and I did not get vaccinated.

Same story as  many folks: ostracized by family and and friends think who we’re crazy and invitations to events stopped coming.

Six months ago, my friends group resumed in-person (co-ed) book club. These friends I have known since 7th grade so serious bear hugs all around.  At the end of the evening, more bear hugs all around.  By the time I went to bed that evening my face was tingling, burning and itching so much I could barely sleep.  Took Benadryl but no relief.  My neck and face were red, puffy (eye lids swollen) with terrible itching, burning and tingling for many days.  Pins and needles on one side of my face and neck. Initially I thought I had become allergic to the dog that had spent the evening sitting in my lap. Eyelids were especially itchy and peeling after a few days.

I am a healthy (exercise 6 days a week) 58 year old female with no health conditions, no prescriptions, and no allergies. Partner is a healthy cyclist who also eats healthily and lives pharma free.

Started Carnivore diet (anti-inflammatory) and the FLCCC vaccine injured protocol. After ~3 weeks, symptoms subsided.

However, for a a few months, if I ate sugar to the excess, my neck and eyelids would itch for ~ 36 hours.

There had been no hugging of the vax’d since the book club event and we only meet quarterly.  Out of fear, I had skipped the next meeting because we are a huggy bunch and didn’t want a relapse of symptoms.

Six weeks ago I spent the day with a vax’d (recently boosted) friend.  I’ve known this friend since I was 10 and I had not seen her since COVID began, so multiple bear hugs. That evening the itching and burning of my face began again, along with some tingling. By the next morning, the tingling and itching was almost as severe as the symptoms after the book club meeting. Began the FLCCC vaccine injured protocol and limited my self to 4 grams of carbs per day. Symptoms subsided after a week or so.

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All of the book club friends are “expert television watchers” and eagerly await the release of boosters.

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I had bleeding in menopause helping elderly family after the second shot. I took ivermectin every week for a year. My dr won’t write another script. I still get a runny nose and stiff neck around the family members. I actually lied at thanksgiving to avoid family,& stopped by for an hour instead of being there the entire day. Was sick for 3 days, cold like symptoms.

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You can access IVM via telemedicine in the US

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Expert of vaccinated.

I hope you don't become an expert.

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This is frightening and so sad. Similar to my situation -- life-long friends.

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Same here! I was shocked that they ALL ran as fast as they could to get the death shot.

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Vaccination in Japan started from 2021Feb. Around May 2021, there was a post on a small website saying, "Something's strange, isn't it Shedding?"

Posted symptoms included eczema, skin rash, diarrhea, and menstrual irregularities for women.

Ordinary elderly people don't look at such websites, only TV and newspapers, and even young people often only look at play sites.

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Dec 4, 2022Liked by Joel Smalley

I got inexplicably ill a few days after both my husbands shots. Indescribable feeling of sick in my stomach and tightness in chest/heart. Heart beat dropped to 40 then up to 130. Took myself to the ER and they could find nothing wrong. I am and was in perfect health so there really was no reason for the episodes. At the time I didn’t connect the dots. Until later I heard it was possible and looked at the dates of his shots.. Although I may never know, I do believe it was connected..It passed thankfully.

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This just pisses me off so much. After all the effort we had to go to to avoid having this shit injected into us (and in Australia, that meant being literally segregated and for most unvaxxed, unable to work) we're at risk anyway from families, friends, co-workers, commuters. The more I get into holistic health, the more I see how utterly poisonous are our environments - the food, the water, the EMFs, the artificial light, and now the shedding. It makes me so mad.

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Dec 4, 2022Liked by Joel Smalley

I work in the schools and when I returned to work, after a summer of mostly being around other pure bloods, I felt unwell. Could have been a variety of factors including being under florescent lights again all day, but I felt unwell in a different way than I had for many years prior. I had gut issues, headaches and malaise. I felt like I was on the verge of coming down with an illness. Headaches are common once I am under those lights, after long abstinence, but for 5-6 weeks I just didn't feel well. I wondered if being around so many jabbed people was negatively impacting my health.

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Dec 4, 2022Liked by Joel Smalley

I decided to keep away for 3 weeks( 2 week period that vaccinated are considered unvaccinated plus 1 week for good luck) . Over the years I have also kept my kids away for a few days from those that take the flumist.

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In 2021 I had two people close to me get the jabs. I had been trying to convince them not to. Up until mid-2021 we had only gotten the "carrot" but not yet the "stick." So, it was just peer pressure and I felt more free to say such things as:

1) it's an experiment; I'll wait.

2) I wouldn't, if I were you. Sounds very risky.

3) there ARE treatments available, and I will do those instead.

4) please wait -- please don't -- I have a bad feeling about this. I care about you.

5) this seems very rushed.... we cannot be assured that it is safe. It's new technology.

I was already aware of some people dropping dead. There were mass vaccination sites and there was a loud clamor for the shots due to the scarcity and peer pressure. People were saying things like, "I'm taking one for the team" or "I'm doing my part" and posting self-congratulatory pictures and announcements of themselves on social media. My workplace was pushing these hard, to get everyone to herd immunity so we could reopen. Everyone seemed to feel like they were doing the right thing for themselves, their community, the greater good. Also "safe and effective."

Everyone I knew really wanted to get "their" shot. So, these two dear people I was working on, I felt like I'd made some headway. They were "waiting." But right at the midpoint of the year the messaging changed, and the stick began to be introduced.

These two people got their shots -- two shots each (so, spaced one month apart) -- and did not tell me until AFTER their second shot. I was so pissed. These are people I would regularly hug. One was a guy I was dating. The friend said that she was "tired of having to lie to people" who would ask her if she was vaccinated. The boyfriend said that everyone was getting it, and no big deal, and I should get with the program and get mine too. Both of them said they were afraid to tell me, and both of them said the first shot was "easy" but the second shot was surprisingly brutal, and it was because of THAT, that they decided to tell me. Just in case.

I said, "you shed on me. You have every right to jab yourself if you want to, but you should have told me." etc.

I did not have any (known) reactions to these exposures. I no longer see either of these people, and I haven't hugged or touched anyone in months. It's very sad and very hard. Every person I know and every new person I meet has taken these shots.

It is what it is.

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Couldn't you do a simple test? Inject one mouse with the vaccine - put it back in the box with six others not vaccinated - at one month sample the six and see if they have spike?

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CDC、FDA、NIH、Pfizer will never do!

Public health authorities around the world will never do!

Because trouble awaits them.

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They use our money to finance killing us with self spreading vaccines; withdraw your financial contribution or continue to pay to kill yourself and your loved ones. They are already coming after everyone, we all have a target on our backs for being human. Ball is in our court.

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I went to a meeting with a fellow for a two hour drive who is fully Vaxxed and boosted and at the meeting I sat beside a guy who had just gotten his booster that morning for two hours. I never felt a thing thankfully.

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The never ending nightmare.

It's not like we can go somewhere else to avoid the contaminated.

It's not like we can recognise them because we don't know who they all are.

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Exactly my point

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what about blood from b]vaxed donors?

i am a regular blood donor to red cross.

iirc i gave a pint w/in two weeks of getting my second moderna mistake......

now red cross asks vax status at each draw but does not explain the reason.

how many get the spike and mrna from the red cross?

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This is the scary current position from NHS Blood Donor website:

https://my.blood.co.uk/KnowledgeBase/Index/coronavirus%20infection

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48h. seems like a bad taste joke to me.

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