That's a nothing burger in comparison to the Mpox vaccine just approved - anyone unvaccinated coming into contact with someone recently jabbed can die! Makes me wonder about all these extremely unsafe, down right dangerous, jabs being allowed with the adversities. We know it's not about health. Is it about $$$? Partly. Could it be to expose the lack of ethics, criminality, etc., to us plebs, so we tear down existing ABC type agencies and rebuild (already in wings) a new "One Health" system globally?
Have you read the Pfizer trial protocol for the covid shot? They already knew/suspected it would spread from recipient to close contacts through body fluids including in breath and sweat. It's not new to monkeypox shots.
Yes, thanks, I've seen them. This injection for mPox actually says death! Sonia Elijah's stack has video interview with a data analyst, Woute, who has produced a brill dashboard of the european adverse events reports. Top one was experiencing covid symptoms!
Pretty sure death is also mentioned in the covid trial protocoas as a possible consequence too. I would have to read it again to be sure. It's more hidden than for monkeypox shots., but I'm pretty sure it's there.
You're correct. Pre-launch, Oct 2020, a PowerPoint slide appeared for a few secs at some FDA meeting, before hurriedly moving onto next slide. It was entitled Adverse Events of Special Interest, and Death was there as just one of over 1,100, so I believe, although the slide only showed a few,, including death.
Why Don’t They Discourage Bad Dietary Choices and Stop Vaccinating?
Consider the impacts on the economy of not reducing the life spans of humans.
Let’s say 30% of the population of a country lived beyond 90 years. Pension plans would implode as there would not be enough money to cover redemptions. For those on public pensions, we could raise taxes to ensure pensioners get paid, but that would mean less money for schools, roads and other infrastructure. Government services would need to be dramatically scaled back resulting in huge job losses.
All of these elderly people would essentially be ‘useless eaters’ sapping the economic strength of the country to provide them with medical care and free bus passes, while they produce and contribute nothing.
Why did they ramp up the vaccine schedule in the 80’s? I would suggest that they did this because population (which grows exponentially) was about to get out of control so they needed to take action. What would our overall population be if not for the vaccine push and the dramatic increase in the availability of processed foods in recent decades?
You are Expendable
At the end of the day all they care about is having enough circus and barnyard animals to operate the farm. They could care less about you or your health - you are EXPENDABLE.
They most certainly do not want one third of the population living to 90+ Japan and China are prime examples of what happens when a country is top heavy on elderly citizens. Too few young people to support the elderly.
Its another fabulous result of "helicopter" parenting and endless nanny state bureaucracy. 😐 When you have children raised in environment where they are protected from everything, how do they learn about consequences?😐🙄 Consequences are what teach us about ethics when we are too young developmentally to understand the bigger picture- ie social contracts, compassion, altruism, etc.
But if you are protected from all consequences, you can't learn to care about actions that affect others beyond yourself. And unfortunately those types of people gravitate to power, hence alot end up in government and institutions.😉
The "the most common adverse reaction is..." is a very good trick. The most common is almost always a mild one. They never write something like "the most important adverse reaction is...".
My exact thought, so the nasal flumist, once administered, can cause all the same symptoms of flu. I have to admit, I administered many flu shots while working for a hospital occupational health service. There were many employees, who told me they became very ill post flu vaxx and they would NEVER take one again. The influenza injectable vaxxes are supposedly made with an “inactivated” flu virus. The flumist on the other hand contains a “weakened live, attenuated virus”. Just what you want to give to your child! Time to clear the fda, cdc, nih and make room for people like Robert Kennedy, Dr. Joe Ladapo, Surgeon General, state of Florida in Nov. 2024. If not expect you can expect bmore and more of these damaging vaccines to be released.
Yes. And that would require voting for Donald J. Trump for President.
All is lost with respect to informed consent and freedom to make one's own health care recisions in the event of a Kamala Harris "presidency." (Unless of course you want to kill your baby at any point in its gestational development.)
Spray this up your nose! It's obviously Safe & Effective! It will save absolutely millions of lives! If you don't take this, you will be Killing Granny! You will be Denying Science! There are only flu-like side-effects (which obviously aren't real flu and any other side-effects you might develop aren't connected to the miracle vaccine and you might still get the real flu because nothing is perfect and you might be defective but it's important you don't make a fuss as Astra Zeneca has shareholders to answer to).
I’m recalling the similar decision my parents made which didn’t require any FDA approval: the kid in the neighborhood with the childhood illness gets visits from all his friends while he’s ill…. The benefit? Strengthens the immune system, plan the illness, fortify nutrition before exposure.
Dear M. Dowrick: like Rob said, they are an idea. Have never been proven to exist. But they can see smaller, so why can’t they find a virus? Virology is a fraudulent “science”, with no controls.
Or Dawn Lester(Dawn’s writing’s) here on Substack. Or Mike Stone of ViroLIEgy, Dr. Stephen Lanka, Dr. Micheal Yeadon, Jacob Diaz(undercover virologist) on X. Christine Massey on Substack.
A warning: really difficult to step aside from the indoctrination we have been subjected to over the last 100 yrs. But has been disproven dozens of times. See “Can you catch a cold” by Daniel Roytas.
Stating facts is not trolling, you are trolling her in your bs response. You could try responding with a link to studies that disprove Sylvie, or links that to successful scientifically controlled studies that can prove diseased humans passing disease to healthy humans....good luck with that.
The CDC claims Guillian Barre Syndrome affects roughly 1 out of 100,000 people. In my little network of 500 people I know four who’ve had GBS. Two were essentially paralyzed from neck down for a year each and never fully recovered. GBS is listed as a potential adverse reaction on at least 7-8 vaccine inserts that I’ve read. It’s always discovered in the post-marketing period. Draw your own conclusions.
In his rapid response, Dr Anand says "Are drugs, including vaccines and blood products, monitored conscientiously by the good doctors? I believe not."[1]
I also have my doubts in regards to doctors conscientiously monitoring the growing number of vaccine products being pressed upon the community.
There are many vaccine products on the burgeoning vaccination schedule for children, including annual flu vaccination, and now fast-tracked coronavirus vaccination is looming.
Do any doctors wonder about the extraordinary number of vaccinations and revaccinations given to children nowadays? We have no idea of the long-term cumulative effects of this ever-increasing vaccine load.
I was astonished recently to read in The Guardian that children in the UK are given the nasal spray flu vaccine to protect their grandparents, even though children do not often get severe flu.[2]
This was acknowledged by Professor Peter Openshaw, from Imperial College London, one of the members of the UK's Sage scientific advisory sub-group Nervtag, during a House of Lords science and technology committee meeting in June to discuss COVID-19 vaccine development.
And now there are plans afoot to vaccinate children against SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 to protect the elderly.
According to The Guardian article "A vaccine against Covid-19 may not work well in older people who are most at risk of becoming seriously ill and dying from the disease..." and this "may mean immunising others around them, such as children".
It's been reported that most paediatric cases with laboratory-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection are mild and severe COVID-19 disease in children is rare. (See comment published in The Lancet Child & Adolescent Health[3])
How can it be ethical to vaccinate mass populations of children against SARS-CoV-2 to protect the elderly if most SARS-CoV-2 infections in children are mild, and severe COVID-19 disease in children is rare?
How can it be ethical to vaccinate mass populations of children against flu if children do not often get severe flu?
Vaccinations are medical interventions which have risks. It seems to me unethical to vaccinate someone against a disease which is not a significant threat to them to protect others, e.g. the elderly. This is a particularly serious matter to consider in countries which have coercive vaccination policies, e.g. Australia and the United States.
And now Reuters reports "AstraZeneca has been granted protection from future product liability claims related to its COVID-19 vaccine hopeful by most of the countries with which it has struck supply agreements..."
According to Reuters, Ruud Dobber, a member of Astra's senior executive team, said "This is a unique situation where we as a company simply cannot take the risk if in...four years the vaccine is showing side effects".[4]
So AstraZeneca has been granted protection from future product liability, and children around the world will be left with the risk of side effects in order to supposedly protect the elderly.
In my opinion this is not ethical.
What do doctors think about this, about vaccinating children with flu vaccines and future coronavirus vaccines to supposedly protect the elderly?
This is not to negate the risks of flu and SARS-CoV-2 for the elderly, but efforts should be concentrated on finding medications to help them directly, children’s right to their own natural defences should not be sacrificed in this regard.
Can Fiona Godlee and Rapid Recommendations editors please urgently consider this matter?
05 August 2020
Elizabeth M Hart
Independent citizen investigating the over-use of vaccine products and conflicts of interest in vaccination policy
beware the pandemic treaty is far from dead in the water as many believe in fact its coming back much sooner than we think..check out the james roguski substack for the details..also go to citizengo.org and scroll through till you find a petition..stop the who,s accelerated push to finalise the pandemic treaty..read it carefully to understand just how serious things are..its a worldwide petition it can be signed and reshared widely worldwide from any country in the world that said dont waste your time using you tube/twitter/gestapo book who you can be sure will censor and suppress it..that said there are many other outlets that can be used including substack/gab/telegram/e mails to name but a few...it currently has over 261000 signatures it urgently needs many more and YOU can help in getting them firstly by signing it and most importantly by resharing it widely worldwide with as many like minded people and groups as you possibly can and be sure to ask each one of them to do exactly the same
"We want to officially express our dissent regarding the 'Pact of the Future' signed on Sunday," said Milei, concluding with a version of a quote from Thomas Paine: "Those who wish to reap the blessings of freedom must, as men, endure the fatigue of defending it."
If only the current U.S. President and Vice President understood what America stands for as well as Argentina's president does.
I am confused (for a while already). Why on earth would anyone want to be vaccinated against mild respitory diseases in the first place? Children need to develop a solid immune system.
As I recall, the previous nasal spray flu "vaccine" was pulled from the market a few years ago after it was determined to have been useless in preventing the flu -- with the additional disadvantage of causing more frequent post-injection seizures than the injected flu shot.
Yes the CDC pulled it for having zero efficacy in any age group. As I understand it was the LAIV vaccine. Incidentally this is what has been recommended this year by the JCVI in the UK. Roll started already in all schools.
If I’m not mistaken, flumist uses a live virus so those receiving it can spread it to others, up to 48 hours after administration
That's a nothing burger in comparison to the Mpox vaccine just approved - anyone unvaccinated coming into contact with someone recently jabbed can die! Makes me wonder about all these extremely unsafe, down right dangerous, jabs being allowed with the adversities. We know it's not about health. Is it about $$$? Partly. Could it be to expose the lack of ethics, criminality, etc., to us plebs, so we tear down existing ABC type agencies and rebuild (already in wings) a new "One Health" system globally?
Have you read the Pfizer trial protocol for the covid shot? They already knew/suspected it would spread from recipient to close contacts through body fluids including in breath and sweat. It's not new to monkeypox shots.
Yes, thanks, I've seen them. This injection for mPox actually says death! Sonia Elijah's stack has video interview with a data analyst, Woute, who has produced a brill dashboard of the european adverse events reports. Top one was experiencing covid symptoms!
Pretty sure death is also mentioned in the covid trial protocoas as a possible consequence too. I would have to read it again to be sure. It's more hidden than for monkeypox shots., but I'm pretty sure it's there.
You're correct. Pre-launch, Oct 2020, a PowerPoint slide appeared for a few secs at some FDA meeting, before hurriedly moving onto next slide. It was entitled Adverse Events of Special Interest, and Death was there as just one of over 1,100, so I believe, although the slide only showed a few,, including death.
I reckon it's about this
Why Don’t They Discourage Bad Dietary Choices and Stop Vaccinating?
Consider the impacts on the economy of not reducing the life spans of humans.
Let’s say 30% of the population of a country lived beyond 90 years. Pension plans would implode as there would not be enough money to cover redemptions. For those on public pensions, we could raise taxes to ensure pensioners get paid, but that would mean less money for schools, roads and other infrastructure. Government services would need to be dramatically scaled back resulting in huge job losses.
All of these elderly people would essentially be ‘useless eaters’ sapping the economic strength of the country to provide them with medical care and free bus passes, while they produce and contribute nothing.
Why did they ramp up the vaccine schedule in the 80’s? I would suggest that they did this because population (which grows exponentially) was about to get out of control so they needed to take action. What would our overall population be if not for the vaccine push and the dramatic increase in the availability of processed foods in recent decades?
You are Expendable
At the end of the day all they care about is having enough circus and barnyard animals to operate the farm. They could care less about you or your health - you are EXPENDABLE.
They most certainly do not want one third of the population living to 90+ Japan and China are prime examples of what happens when a country is top heavy on elderly citizens. Too few young people to support the elderly.
https://fasteddynz.substack.com/p/vaccines-are-population-control
Its another fabulous result of "helicopter" parenting and endless nanny state bureaucracy. 😐 When you have children raised in environment where they are protected from everything, how do they learn about consequences?😐🙄 Consequences are what teach us about ethics when we are too young developmentally to understand the bigger picture- ie social contracts, compassion, altruism, etc.
But if you are protected from all consequences, you can't learn to care about actions that affect others beyond yourself. And unfortunately those types of people gravitate to power, hence alot end up in government and institutions.😉
If that is true, does it contain formaldehide? Formaldehide near the brain sounds fantastic!
The "the most common adverse reaction is..." is a very good trick. The most common is almost always a mild one. They never write something like "the most important adverse reaction is...".
My exact thought, so the nasal flumist, once administered, can cause all the same symptoms of flu. I have to admit, I administered many flu shots while working for a hospital occupational health service. There were many employees, who told me they became very ill post flu vaxx and they would NEVER take one again. The influenza injectable vaxxes are supposedly made with an “inactivated” flu virus. The flumist on the other hand contains a “weakened live, attenuated virus”. Just what you want to give to your child! Time to clear the fda, cdc, nih and make room for people like Robert Kennedy, Dr. Joe Ladapo, Surgeon General, state of Florida in Nov. 2024. If not expect you can expect bmore and more of these damaging vaccines to be released.
Yes. And that would require voting for Donald J. Trump for President.
All is lost with respect to informed consent and freedom to make one's own health care recisions in the event of a Kamala Harris "presidency." (Unless of course you want to kill your baby at any point in its gestational development.)
Spray this up your nose! It's obviously Safe & Effective! It will save absolutely millions of lives! If you don't take this, you will be Killing Granny! You will be Denying Science! There are only flu-like side-effects (which obviously aren't real flu and any other side-effects you might develop aren't connected to the miracle vaccine and you might still get the real flu because nothing is perfect and you might be defective but it's important you don't make a fuss as Astra Zeneca has shareholders to answer to).
This sums it up.
I’m recalling the similar decision my parents made which didn’t require any FDA approval: the kid in the neighborhood with the childhood illness gets visits from all his friends while he’s ill…. The benefit? Strengthens the immune system, plan the illness, fortify nutrition before exposure.
Chronic illness is a great business model!
Flumist can not be using a live virus, since a live virus of any kind has yet to be found!
It’s a live, attenuated virus that can be spread from one person to another.
I checked the confirming info at your link. Thank you, Stu.
https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=does%20flumist%20have%20a%20live%20attenuated%20virus%20that%20can%20be%20spread%20to%20others&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5
Key word is “shed “
Dear M. Dowrick: like Rob said, they are an idea. Have never been proven to exist. But they can see smaller, so why can’t they find a virus? Virology is a fraudulent “science”, with no controls.
As far as explaining the cause of symptoms, see Dr. Sam Bailey: https://open.substack.com/pub/drsambailey/p/the-truth-about-contagion?r=pe9r1&utm_medium=ios
Or Dawn Lester(Dawn’s writing’s) here on Substack. Or Mike Stone of ViroLIEgy, Dr. Stephen Lanka, Dr. Micheal Yeadon, Jacob Diaz(undercover virologist) on X. Christine Massey on Substack.
A warning: really difficult to step aside from the indoctrination we have been subjected to over the last 100 yrs. But has been disproven dozens of times. See “Can you catch a cold” by Daniel Roytas.
Oh yeah, I forgot. So the herpes “virus”, chickenpox “virus” corona “virus” influenza “viruses” don’t exist. Just wondering, what are they?
A hypothesis.
Boo! You and all trolls go away!
https://open.substack.com/pub/lionessofjudah/p/dr-yeadon-im-formally-confident-that?r=pe9r1&utm_medium=ios
Sahib, you’re using a leftist tactic. Name calling. Keep an open mind.
Stating facts is not trolling, you are trolling her in your bs response. You could try responding with a link to studies that disprove Sylvie, or links that to successful scientifically controlled studies that can prove diseased humans passing disease to healthy humans....good luck with that.
The CDC claims Guillian Barre Syndrome affects roughly 1 out of 100,000 people. In my little network of 500 people I know four who’ve had GBS. Two were essentially paralyzed from neck down for a year each and never fully recovered. GBS is listed as a potential adverse reaction on at least 7-8 vaccine inserts that I’ve read. It’s always discovered in the post-marketing period. Draw your own conclusions.
Another good reason not to send children to school.
Did you know children are vaccinated against flu to purportedly protect the elderly?
This emerged at a Lords committee meeting in June 2020.
See my BMJ rapid response on this matter, published in August 2020: Is it ethical to vaccinate children to protect the elderly? https://www.bmj.com/content/364/bmj.l108/rr-4
Dear Editor
In his rapid response, Dr Anand says "Are drugs, including vaccines and blood products, monitored conscientiously by the good doctors? I believe not."[1]
I also have my doubts in regards to doctors conscientiously monitoring the growing number of vaccine products being pressed upon the community.
There are many vaccine products on the burgeoning vaccination schedule for children, including annual flu vaccination, and now fast-tracked coronavirus vaccination is looming.
Do any doctors wonder about the extraordinary number of vaccinations and revaccinations given to children nowadays? We have no idea of the long-term cumulative effects of this ever-increasing vaccine load.
I was astonished recently to read in The Guardian that children in the UK are given the nasal spray flu vaccine to protect their grandparents, even though children do not often get severe flu.[2]
This was acknowledged by Professor Peter Openshaw, from Imperial College London, one of the members of the UK's Sage scientific advisory sub-group Nervtag, during a House of Lords science and technology committee meeting in June to discuss COVID-19 vaccine development.
And now there are plans afoot to vaccinate children against SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 to protect the elderly.
According to The Guardian article "A vaccine against Covid-19 may not work well in older people who are most at risk of becoming seriously ill and dying from the disease..." and this "may mean immunising others around them, such as children".
It's been reported that most paediatric cases with laboratory-confirmed SARS-CoV-2 infection are mild and severe COVID-19 disease in children is rare. (See comment published in The Lancet Child & Adolescent Health[3])
How can it be ethical to vaccinate mass populations of children against SARS-CoV-2 to protect the elderly if most SARS-CoV-2 infections in children are mild, and severe COVID-19 disease in children is rare?
How can it be ethical to vaccinate mass populations of children against flu if children do not often get severe flu?
Vaccinations are medical interventions which have risks. It seems to me unethical to vaccinate someone against a disease which is not a significant threat to them to protect others, e.g. the elderly. This is a particularly serious matter to consider in countries which have coercive vaccination policies, e.g. Australia and the United States.
And now Reuters reports "AstraZeneca has been granted protection from future product liability claims related to its COVID-19 vaccine hopeful by most of the countries with which it has struck supply agreements..."
According to Reuters, Ruud Dobber, a member of Astra's senior executive team, said "This is a unique situation where we as a company simply cannot take the risk if in...four years the vaccine is showing side effects".[4]
So AstraZeneca has been granted protection from future product liability, and children around the world will be left with the risk of side effects in order to supposedly protect the elderly.
In my opinion this is not ethical.
What do doctors think about this, about vaccinating children with flu vaccines and future coronavirus vaccines to supposedly protect the elderly?
This is not to negate the risks of flu and SARS-CoV-2 for the elderly, but efforts should be concentrated on finding medications to help them directly, children’s right to their own natural defences should not be sacrificed in this regard.
Can Fiona Godlee and Rapid Recommendations editors please urgently consider this matter?
05 August 2020
Elizabeth M Hart
Independent citizen investigating the over-use of vaccine products and conflicts of interest in vaccination policy
Adelaide, Australia
Well done, Elizabeth Hart!
beware the pandemic treaty is far from dead in the water as many believe in fact its coming back much sooner than we think..check out the james roguski substack for the details..also go to citizengo.org and scroll through till you find a petition..stop the who,s accelerated push to finalise the pandemic treaty..read it carefully to understand just how serious things are..its a worldwide petition it can be signed and reshared widely worldwide from any country in the world that said dont waste your time using you tube/twitter/gestapo book who you can be sure will censor and suppress it..that said there are many other outlets that can be used including substack/gab/telegram/e mails to name but a few...it currently has over 261000 signatures it urgently needs many more and YOU can help in getting them firstly by signing it and most importantly by resharing it widely worldwide with as many like minded people and groups as you possibly can and be sure to ask each one of them to do exactly the same
https://www.theblaze.com/news/argentinas-chainsaw-president-tells-the-un-to-shove-its-socialist-pact-for-the-future.
Javier Milei, as quoted in the linked article:
"We want to officially express our dissent regarding the 'Pact of the Future' signed on Sunday," said Milei, concluding with a version of a quote from Thomas Paine: "Those who wish to reap the blessings of freedom must, as men, endure the fatigue of defending it."
If only the current U.S. President and Vice President understood what America stands for as well as Argentina's president does.
I got your direct message, Clive. Thank you.
I am confused (for a while already). Why on earth would anyone want to be vaccinated against mild respitory diseases in the first place? Children need to develop a solid immune system.
After all the lies the CDC told us during the so-called Covid pandemic, I'm avoiding all vaccines however they are administered.
THE FDA IS NEVER TO BE TRUSTED....NOT EVER! In my humble opinion!
As I recall, the previous nasal spray flu "vaccine" was pulled from the market a few years ago after it was determined to have been useless in preventing the flu -- with the additional disadvantage of causing more frequent post-injection seizures than the injected flu shot.
Yes the CDC pulled it for having zero efficacy in any age group. As I understand it was the LAIV vaccine. Incidentally this is what has been recommended this year by the JCVI in the UK. Roll started already in all schools.
No surprise - the Federal Democide Agency is just doing their job.