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A pathogen so lethal it killed you in hospital but so benign you could be oblivious to even having it.

A pathogen that had no medication to alleviate it's symptoms until you were in intensive care yet needing no medication when you didn't know you had it.

A pathogen that knew to avoid you if you were seated and eating. That only came out of your mouth and got stopped by your mask but could get out of an unmasked mouth and through your mouth to contaminate you.

A pathogen which could defy the PCR and LF tests and fool you into thinking you were/were not ill, regardless of whether you had symptoms.

A pathogen which made it necessary for hospitals to deny you antibiotics (even though most people who die "of an ILI" generally get popped off by pneumonia which can be treated with antibiotics) as well as deny you visits by family even though you already had the disease and your nurse was getting the bus home every day.

Nobody wants to know now about the not-very-dangerous-to-anyone pathogen or the very-dangerous-to-everyone "vaccines". Nobody wants to know about the excess deaths, unexplained deaths, sudden illnesses, inability to conceive or any of the other stuff.

But a nurse who killed babies is a person with a face everyone can see and hate and insist on punishment (and she should be punished but so should all the people who knew but did nothing - like all the people who knew the truth about covid and did nothing)

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100%.

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Wow! Excellent.

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Perhaps the lesson is if committing murder, go big. If you murder one person you go to jail for a long time. If you commit genocide you get a promotion, a government contract and will never by held responsible.

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Fred, be assured that God has a way of bringing the justice to the person, whether its in this life or certainly the next. Marx, Hitler, Lenin, Stalin all died young and experienced brutal debilitations to body and mind before they died (and possible poison).

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We cannot wait for judgement in the afterlife. Too many lives at stake. I prefer some old testament justice for the perpetrators of genocide.

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I agree Fred.

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That was Stalin's opinion wasn't it?

One death is a tragedy but a million deaths is merely a statistic.

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Yes, I have update it for the plandemic times.

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And you will become a Knight of the realm, or a Dame, in the now endemic Pantomime of Murder: Sir Chris, Dame June......

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Thank you for speaking out.

So few are doing that.

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This isn't the world I want my children to grow up in.

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Keep saying it! More people died from NOT going to hospital because our HEALTH service told us to stay away during the greatest HEALTH crisis in our lifetimes! For the utter scandal that was the UK NHS! Complicit in the deaths of thousands, while taking money hand over fist from the taxpayer, refusing to use the purpose built Nightingale Hospitals and shutting your doors when we needed you most! My clap was long…and slow!

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I too, thought an injustice had been committed when Lucy Letby was found guilty. Thousands are dead due to the refusal to allow covid patients access to healthcare until their lips turned blue, covid positive elderly put down with midazolam and morphine, covid positive hospital patients placed on ventilators and given remdesivir causing them to die, dangerous experimental biologicals forced on men and women in order to keep their jobs. Why haven’t the people in sage, the MHRA, the NHS and the government who caused these deaths been brought to justice? Why have they been allowed to walk free. Why have they catapulted to higher paying positions in the companies that created the death jabs? The only person I dared say this to, this morning, was my husband. But I wanted to scream it to the world.

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Because enough people have not stood up and shouted the accusation.

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7 deaths are accountable when it’s an individual responsible, 1 million deaths are a mere statistic when it’s a collective responsible.…

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"Those cheering Lucy’s demise are the same who are too blind and insincere to recognise the real medical malfeasance, resulting in the untimely deaths of millions of people around the world, including children."

The problem with the 'COVID-19 shots killed' argument is she is accused of deaths from 2015-2016, not 2021:

"Lucy Letby, 33, was charged with murder in the deaths of five baby boys and two girls, and the attempted murder of five boys and five girls, when she worked at the Countess of Chester Hospital in northwest England between 2015 and 2016."

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/08/18/british-nurse-lucy-letby-guilty-of-killing-seven-newborn-babies/

Regardless, I do support people efforts to 'argue the other side' of the case, and it is important when it comes to legal matters. A more effective counter-argument was put forward by Fenton on Twitter, where he showed incidences of similar deaths that occurred when she *wasn't* on duty.

That said, the NHS is horribly inept if that many murders could be missed over nearly a year. It isn't the first case of an NHS nurse murdering children. I doubt it will be the last.

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I don’t believe she is guilty. I believe there was insufficient evidence to prove she did anything wrong and as long as people go along with this travesty the real cause and/or culprits still walk among us!

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Be aware that the Shipman Enabling Act passed in March 2020 swept away probably more than all the safeguards put in place post Dr Harold Shipman to ensure that "this never happens again".

Almost as if they knew what was going to happen.

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There are no safeguarding measures that can be put in place to ensure it never happens again..the only way around it is to make it compulsory that no nurse or doctor works alone…so a doubling up of staff when in close proximity to patients…but even then, what if you have two Shipman’s being paired….so make it 3, or 4 or….when it’s babies, the easiest thing is to have cameras monitor 24/7…

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You can certainly say she's innocent.

Just you can't blame events that occurred *after* when it happened as the cause, which is all I'm saying.

More credible counter-arguments out there, see Fenton's rebuttal.

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Data of Diamond Princess at Yokohama Port, Japan in February 2020(Of cause no vax year)

|712 infections|13 deaths|3711 total on board

= 19% infection rate, 1.8% infection fatality rate (some treated), 0.35% overall infection mortality rate

0.35% infection mortality rate for the Wuhan strain, a large number of retirees, and an approximately closed population.

So it's probably a much larger rate than the population of a country or region, but that's about it.

For Omicron, the infection-fatality rate is about ≤0.13%.

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Good point! I hope you don't mind, I'm going to footnote it.

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No one died on the boat.

All deaths ex post facto

Deaths within range of number that could be expected irrespective of cause

https://twitter.com/EWoodhouse7/status/1633659235543179265?s=20

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These numbers are not accurate because it does not include deaths after disembarkation. I remember trying to find that data at the time and being perturbed that it was not collected/available.

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I read about it recently. There were no more than a couple. But the point I keep trying to make - if they were really that interested in the truth, how difficult would it have been to follow up all 3,700 on board?

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The cruise line didn’t follow up itself and undoubtedly would not have *willingly* cooperated. But governments should’ve followed up and it would’ve been easy with the manifest, which would’ve had names, DoBs, phone numbers, emails, addresses, you name it.

I’m very interested in it if there’s a source that says there were only a couple deaths after.

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I can't remember now but this excellent thread from Jessica Hockett suggests that the true IFR was probably much lower if you take into account expected deaths. And there was run-death-is-near, sorry, I mean remdesivir, of course... https://twitter.com/EWoodhouse7/status/1633659235543179265?s=20

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And patients put into the hospital and on ventilators

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All deaths were after disembarkation

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No one died on the boat

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"A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic."

- Joseph Stalin

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Who is going to properly investigate and hold the real criminal medical and public health authorities accountable for the iatrogenic deaths they have caused?

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Us.

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Yes, us.

Me included.

Which I've been doing for over a year with NYC.

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Amen

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I still wonder if people in key areas were also sprayed with something - a biological or chemical agent. The US has deep form for that. https://www.businessinsider.com/military-government-secret-experiments-biological-chemical-weapons-2016-9

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I have put down the Covid death figures for Spain und march/April 2020, nearly every day. When the figures of all cause mortality per published, I plotted by hand the Covid death figures and one could see, they were only one third of the total mortality figures. As rumours went, the nurses in care homes horrified either returned to their home countries or left the old ones shut in their rooms if they were tested positive.

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Very interesting stuff. We have a lot of people being diagnosed with bronchitis in my area right now. To think that just a couple years ago they would have been diagnosed with "covid"...

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Hi Joel, I'll mention that I had a conversation today that was broadly along the lines that you argued in this article. See my earlier comment about the Shipman Enabling Act.

If you live in the UK, don't fall ill.

FYI I'm attempting to catalogue the Our World in Data figures for over 200 countries by cases/jab ratio. And that's going to take a while.

I've just now put up a new post on my substack on concerns for vaccinated in this coming winter as they face a virus under construction while their immune systems weaken.

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Thanks Joel.

One point: you say "we know from excess mortality studies that an extraordinary number of people did die unexpectedly during that period."

Of course, there is the possibility that some of these bodies just didn't exist, or death dates were brought forward or pushed into the specific desired timeframe, or a combination of these.

The FOIs of various organizations who might be able to verify the body count have so far not supported the total numbers claimed for the period, thoigh this is a work in progress inside Panda.

Unlike other states, New York does not publish their death certificate data.

The logistics of dealing with ca. 26k extra bodies in around 11 weeks - with sharp peaks of 6 or 7 times the normal number of bobies for a few weeks - are challenging and complex, yet don't seem to have left much of a signature behind.

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In all the studies where there is such data from multiple sources or, dare I say, more reliable sources, I haven't yet found evidence of fake deaths. As I've said before, I don't think "they" are smart and capable enough to have pulled off such a feat anyway, even if they tried!

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Didn’t Steve Kirsch find evidence of fake deaths in the Medicare care home data this week. At some facilities there were more Covid deaths than residents.

I think Steve missed the possibility that it might be fraud, until it was brought up in the comments on his article.

Hospitals were incentivised to find Covid cases, to use ventilators and to attribute cause of death to Covid.

https://open.substack.com/pub/stevekirsch/p/why-you-cant-trust-the-us-government?r=peo1w&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post

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It would be more likely due to human error than coordinated malfeasance IMO.

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There is evidence of intentional iatrogenic medical practice. Please see the following that I got from Transcriber B here on substack. She is cataloging and storing evidence of medical malfeasance. I just checked and it is still up.

Basically the change in hospital procedure to handle respiratory viruses was done to ensure death and then blame it on covid (whether the patient had covid or not).

Nurse Albert Spence’s testimony before South Carolina Senate

https://www.bitchute.com/video/mYf2mTn1PWuy/

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The CMS data is incomplete (starts in May 2020) and also does not include all-cause mortality.

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But my point is that you wouldn't have "No evidence of fake deaths". You can't (other than say emails instructing people to do it, or audit logs of databses). You'd have lack of evidence of deaths. So far, the evidence of them having dealt with that many bodies is lacking. That's all I am saying.

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Yes, but I'm saying that the co-ordinated effort required in every country that reported deaths, resulting in substantial excess, is evidence for me that it didn't happen. They simply couldn't have pulled that off. Could they?!

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I made the same argument in favour of the virus being real. How could they manufacture increased ILI visits 2 to 3 weeks before deaths in sufficient number of hospitals? These aren't the result of people presenting with a positive test, are they? These are people being admitted for symptomatic respiratory disease?

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You need a longer timeline and more information.

Stay tuned

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No; almost no tests were available, regardless how good or bad.

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That is not true. NYC was testing everyone in the hospital - and beyond - very early on.

Related thread with data https://twitter.com/EWoodhouse7/status/1687453210665996288?s=20

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I’m not saying that if it did happen, it happened everywhere. The reported excess deaths were off the scale specifically in N Italy and NYC, these are the places which established the scare story. The excess death rate was nowhere near as high elsewhere.

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Maybe they just panicked more? Otherwise you mean to tell me that there is coordination between N. Italy and New York at an organised crime level?! ;-)

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I just added this article to the footnotes (I wrote so many I forgot I'd even done it). there is no way they could artificially synchronise excess mortality and COVID mortality like this, IMO. https://metatron.substack.com/p/detailed-assessment-of-the-impact

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In a manner of speaking, yes. But not in the way you're thinking.

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They can pull off things that would be later announced as "errors", such as double counting from different places of deaths (meaning hospital, home, care homes, etc), *confusion* over the probable covid deaths they added (and then largely removed), or pushing deaths forward from earlier months and weeks.

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The deaths don't even need to be fake to be fraudulent - and I'm not referring to the cause of death attribution issue.

If any deaths were "pushed forward" from prior weeks or months, for example, and *stuffed* into the spike, it's fraud.

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I have some evidence of fraudulent deaths. I'll leave it at that for now, but I've written to state and city agencies about concerning discrepancies and am awaiting response.

I have taken NYC's spring 2020 mortality event very seriously, as I believe it is something of. Rosetta Stone to uncovering what the "pandemic" was and wasn't.

The feat you allude to is actually not difficult at all.

It's very simple.

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Remdesivir/midazolam/ventilators == death. Ivermectin/Vit D/Zinc/HCQ etc. == life.

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Does this overlook early spread? https://billricejr.substack.com/

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There are those that argue it is feasible for a virus to circulate at low levels for some time before spreading exponentially. For me, there must be a catalyst for this though. The fact that this explosion was almost simultaneous in many countries far apart but not some countries in between suggests that the catalyst was not natural! Confining people with each other in confined spaces would probably do it!

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That aspect is also plausible, and not incompatible with early spread. I'm almost certain I got Omicron from biotrailing* (of clarified sewage?), and it seems possible for the original strain as well.

* Hadn't gone anywhither, except outside in the early morning without a mask. Though it may have been a result of a really long incubation period after Christmas gatherings.

My comment about early spread was because it seems to me the charts should have started earlier than 07 March. I was over it then save malaise, had gotten it in late February, and I surely wasn't a "patient zero". ("Patient" used loosely because I didn't go out, let alone to a hospital. Besides, it was published you didn't get "tested", however they did that, unless you went to a hospital AND had recently returned from China.) I suspect I got it either indirectly (Sundance worker or visitor at the library?) from the Sundance Film Festival via fomites or aerosol, or from the aforementioned biotrailing.

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Unfortunately, they didn't go further back with ILI presentations so it's difficult to say. But, my point is that this is the sort of thing that should be properly examined in a court. then we might be able to say.

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Hi Joel.

I have the ILI ED visits data, obtained via FOI, all the way back to 2009. I also have daily ILI admissions data back to 2016, and other data that's relevant to your post (since NYC is a chief focus for me).

I have various posts and threads with that data, but I'll do another post or thread that addresses what you're pointing out directly.

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And why are you so inclined to still believe in a novel pathogen called Covid? Once you believe that and play by their rules, you have given them an incredible head start in ruling over us.

I don't believe in a disease called Covid. Whenever you have a serious illness and they're clueless as to the origin, they attribute it to a virus. This is their religion.

Now if you're going to talk about a "bioweapon," that would be the "vaccine." But is it really a "bioweapon"? Which of course implies that the powers that be are trying to kill people.

No these are religious fanatics including Pfauci who believe they're saving humanity. They are more dangerous than the small minority who actually know these jabs are killing people.

Read Jon Rappoport's blog as to why "Covid" cannot be due to an artificially created virus in a lab.

COVID: It’s not one thing, it’s not one disease

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2023/05/12/covid-its-not-one-thing-its-not-one-disease-2/

There's a new church in town. Watch CHURCH OF THE PANDEMIC MIND.

https://turfseer.substack.com/p/church-of-the-pandemic-mind

“Doctor” Fatty Arbuckle and his “patient” Buster Keaton join forces to remind us “Trust the Science.” Watch the hit music video TRUST THE SCIENCE RAG here: https://turfseer.substack.com/p/trust-the-science-rag

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