JJ just did a detailed revisit (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2137113100) of the frustrating attempt he made to dialogue productively with the no-virus team, only to be dismissed and (deliberately?) misunderstood. I hope Mark Bailey listens to it all the way through, because it is about time to shed the meddlers and find common ground offered by Couey's ideas about exosomes, DNA clones and iatrogenic deaths. Some people find JJ's wrath toward some favourite "truth-tellers" off-putting, but it makes sense that a well-designed coup would require narrative-leaders for the resistance to keep us on the path-less-travelled and prevent our straying into the actual landscape to discover what really went down, no? Worth considering...
almost every sentence in that episode is a lie. i can go one by one with you if you wish or you can select any statement he makes there and i’ll prove it to you that JJ is deliberately lying. he never made any “attempts” with the no-virus team and nobody ever “dismissed” him regardless how obscene his theories are. there are emails that are public to showcase that. so he’s lying even about that.
Hi again Rosemary, I tried to watch the video but JJ's response to Cowan's basic observation that you can't talk about any experiment that doesn't use controls was to go off on a mad circle that 'viruses', that have never been shown to exist because none of the experiments use controls, make RNA. The cells make RNA. It's never been shown that it's not the cells that are making the RNA, because the experiments never use controls. JJ is producing a word salad.
I've been banned by the Bailey's (for pointing out basic errors in their logic on animal ag) but i will defend them in that I know they say the channels for debate, over the evidence, are always open; but that JJ never answers the fundamental problem of lack of controls.
Why is everyone clinging to 'exosomes' (vesicles that some cells seem to extrude and which have unknown function) for common ground? It's bizarre.
No evidence of a pandemic. No evidence of a virus. It doesn't matter what we think of the personalities on social media nor of how they behave.
JJ very much agrees with Nick and the PANDA team, and Denis Rancourt, and others who point out there is no evidence for a spreading pathogen. It is interesting that the Baileys are into banishing those who question their logic, and I would have thought that would be a red flag? JJ has a lot of time for Mark Bailey and would engage in a productive discussion, but somehow the no-virusers seem stuck on this "controls and isolation" obsession to the point of ridiculousness - have they ever followed through with the logic that IF there was no virus THEN that means that people were murdered? Why not? That's all JJ is "mad" about.
Hi Rosemary, no I don't know much about JJ but he seems deranged. He's mad that some are stuck on an obsession with the scientific method to the point of ridiculousness!! Jesus wept. That's just plain crazy. If you don't follow the scientific method and use controls we might just as well all write fantasies as to what is happening.
Yes, 'they' ie no virus team (I know because I am one of them) have clearly followed through on the fact that there was no virus; meaning that the elderly and others were murdered. I've written about it extensively and can't really understand why people, virus or no virus, aren't going on about it a lot more; about what a terrible way to die midazolam and deliberate dehydration is, added to the fact that they died alone separated from their loved ones. Who cares if the Baileys haven't, I don't follow them so i don't know.
But this is why I post about no virus, and the scientific method; because hundreds were also murdered by AZT, including Rock Hudson, Rudolf Nureyv, Freddie Mercury and Arthur Ashe and many took their own lives on a positive result for a virus that doesn't exist.
No virus camp will have a shot at credibility for me when they explain why massive deaths attributed to a cause they are certain is fraudulent claim doesn't trigger any curiosity about how folks were killed that have Covid as cause of death.
I was watching something last night...and what is missing from normal peoples brains is that every year we have maybe 60000 deaths mostly elderly from ILI ilnesses... (leaving the no virus/exosome debate out of it)....it is easy to bump this number up or down by withholding or administering antibiotics. ...
The withholding of antibiotics when most of us peasants know that bacteria live in our windpipe and easily turn to pneumonia when one is ill....well..that's something I'd like to see discussed....because I'd bet money all pneumonia are bacterial.....
As part of the no virus camp who has written extensively about what terrible and lonely deaths many people had from remdesivir, midazolam (which i was on to from very early on), deliberate dehydration, forced ventilation and also AZT I hope i can have some credibility.
This is such a weird discrediting of the scientific method because of what certain people say or don't say.
My tracking of Biotech Mafia and pandemic planners spans more than two decades pre-Covid and have had a full galaxy of researchers, reporters, scientific sources and experts cross my path along the way. Many have long records casting them as credible or frauds. Understanding that NYTimes Science has been Monsanto-Rockefeller-Gates content from 1990s Golden Rice mythology.. biotech PR stalwarts w TIME for decades & cabal w Johns Hopkins & Harvard & WEF & WHO et al experts de jour are easy to flag liars..
What has been most challenging for me over many years was deeper understanding of p value games and model frauds and fundamental biology.. nobody has done more to teach me the biology, relevant tools, areas of speculation differentiated from plausibly known, observed or measured.
Jay has been a one of the best discoveries of recent times and brilliant teacher with decades of bench science to demystify and teach biology. Love him to the moon and back and deeply grateful for so much understanding beyond gmo feeding studies and clinical trials. If you aren't able to draw value from Jay's biology the problem is yours.. at this point in year five of the psyop anyone certain no viruses exist but not full force attacking the childhood vaccine schedule as criminal enterprise it is won't save lives just score points. No evidence as the whole game... yawn.
JJ of course is, or was, scientific advisor to CHD so he has to follow the party line which is def vlruses and lab leak. RFK was even on camera saying that sars was engineered to attack Jews in particular or something like that wasn't he? Fruit loop.
Duesburg also claimed that HIV was some kind of benign passenger virus. The whole thing would have been totally avoided, and many AZT lives saved, if Montagnier and Gallo had just done Controls!
Sorry Jo, but it's clear to me that you haven't listened to much of what JJ has been saying. Far from sticking to the CHD party line, he was actually fired late last year because his critiques got a bit too close to home for them; he was fooled by the lab leak vs zoonotic false dichotomy back in 2020, but for a year or two now he has been debunking this. He in no way defends the virology field as being air tight, in fact what he was actually attempting to do by contacting the no-virus team was a bridging exercise. He does not worship RFK or agree with everything he says. So you are jumping to a whole lot of wrong conclusions about him.
No Jay has NOT been on the lab leak virus theme & was let go by CHD for disagreement & his sections in Bobby's book explain it's mythology possible only w clones... very bad form to distort and invert Jay's position to such an extreme.
I don't click on links without explanation. What are they doing to me? I tried to find the above by searching substack but came up with nothing. Please elaborate.
Dr JJ Corey helped me get over the cognitive dissonance I was experiencing. On one hand the talking heads were shouting at me from the tv about the deadly virus in our midst, telling us life would never be the same, people were dropping dead right ,left and centre as evidenced by the elaborate pandemic shows in New York and Bergamot in Italy then I would look out my door and people were walking about as normal. His explanations based on biology brought me to my senses and I began to see the lies and deceit which has flooded the virus and vaccine world. He should be given worldwide exposure but never will, they are fighting desperately to keep everyone under the spell of fear from viruses and the resulting useless vaccines, it is a con game and protection racket.
I feel the same way, even though I got pretty sick during 'covid'. I recall some ex CDC fellow saying there were at least a 1000 potential pathogens that can cause respiratory infections (none of which can be easily cultivated from a patient). I now agree that SARS Cov2 as a somehow unique virus IS a myth. The problem is that truthful science has long been subverted and claims of certainty and understanding, for instance of virology or vaccinology have been vastly overstated so we get these extreme options - virus/ no virus, vaccines great/vaccines bad. It's a shame, we can't be more humble about what we really know or don't. I guess everyone wants to have a great resume.
And so is the con and the clinging on to viruses existing at all. The ability of rogue scientists to engineer viruses (never shown to exist outside of a computer) has been deliberately kept alive for the next time.
It is a hypothesis which isn't testable but he understands the biology and how dna clones work and how virus replication fidelity is so unbelievably low therefore it is more than a whim IMO.. Have you watched his original video where he sets out his reasoning?
It can't be tested yet he understands it? Say what? It's impossible to understand something that can't be observed. I have watched his video and I can't follow his 'reasoning' at all.
Samples from people with various symptoms from the alleged virus, plus samples from sick patients with various symptoms but thought not to have the 'virus', plus healthy people should be taken. These should be added to cell cultures and all treated in exactly the same way, with the researchers being blinded. Any further experiment eg with PCR testing for 'replication' fidelity of chosen sequences of RNA (never shown to come from a 'virus) would be done using samples from all the above cultures in tandem. Then we observe any 'exosomes', RNA or any DNA clones of said RNA sequences. Then we unblind. Then we can talk.
It sounds like JJ is observing the fake pandemic around the world ( ie the PCR testing for the RNA sequences never shown to come from a virus that were simply guessed at and crafted in a computer) and reverse engineering this observation and making up an idea of how the (fake) pandemic could have happened but with the sequences (never shown to come from a virus) actually being from an entity; though not one that causes disease.
It sounds like you haven't viewed the video where he explains the origin of his clone theory. Which video did you watch where you cannot understand his reasoning? He definitely does not base any of his ideas on results from PCR testing - in fact he refers to the PCR tests as total fraud. He also refers to the pandemic as a total fraud.
He can't work on RNA without using the PCR amplification technique (it's not a test; of cause it's part of the fraud of the pandemic) he wouldn't be able to see anything in his test tubes.
I am so not interested in the nonsense of what this dude thinks nor his little untestable theories about clones. God. You can't make a DNA clone from an RNA virus that doesn't exist.
This is all part of keeping the scary virus narrative going, and is part of the control using fear. Please don't fall for it.
If you don't follow the scientific method and do controls; people are allowed to get away with murder and it gets on my tits.
I haven't Duchess. I read an interesting post by Martin Neil and Jonathan Engler called Virus Origins and Gain (Claim) of Function research with a lot of support for the clone theory from various papers. Worth a read:
We may never know but I saw Ralphie basics patents for non replicating infectious clones. I have watched gates and fauci say there would be a pandemic during trumps term of office and they are all with WHO saying disease x is bird flu…and it will be 20 times more pathogenic..you know we in us have altered bird flu to be infectious to humans….they are right out in open with the dupers delight on their faces. Seems to me they have threatened us twice…you don't like Trump we are gonna shut down the world..we want total control overevery countries health we are gonna kill more of you and kill all the cows and chickens and let you starve.
Yes that seems to be the plan and, not to be outdone, 'scientists' aka madmen in the UK have used 'CRISPR to alter chicken DNA to create birds resistant to deadly bird flu viruses like H5N1. But the study was a failure, according to one critic, because the technology also helped the virus replicate more efficiently in human cells'
Ever know of any government in history that didn't murder its citizens as well as non citizens? The nature of ALL government is to maintain firm control and power. They know they wouldn't exist if the people ever discovered that they didn't need government to live a fine life. This secret must be protected at all costs and the very reason why government is nothing more than a slave/master relationship. The masters are so incompetent and cowardly that having free citizens running around scares them to death.
Kings -popes -Governments of all kinds- dictators— industries such as health etc —are all in the category of doing what is best for them and no matter how you twist it they are a bunch of self serving narcissistic wolves parading around pretending to be benevolent and caring about the public and “on your side to protect you” lie.
How do they get away with it? Many ways including dumbing down of the populations, hidden agendas and a coterie of psychopaths who enjoy murdering and torturing.
Centuries of practicing the above has only taught them to be more clever HENCE the position we now find ourselves in.
Talk talk talk is not the way to destroy what is occurring.
It involves using evil itself to destroy evil. On its own it is a virus that is more insidious than one can imagine (unless you’re evil; they will sense the depravity of blatant lies and in that case will only rise up against an evil entity if it’s become threatened. When using evil for a good purpose such as destroying evil out of control, then it can be very successful because God will allow good to prevail always.
I couldn't agree more it's totally undeniable in my opinion but it's incredible how many people don't see it. I have the utmost respect for you and your raising awareness about the diabolical acts theses monsters are committing have committed Nd are going to commit. Respect to you Joe .
Awesome, JJ needs more exposure because the information his twitch videos gives is extremely important because some of our "hero's" may not be such.
Chetty was the first along with Yeadon soon after, to me it's obvious and excellent that a great substack like yours and a well qualified person like JJ is highlighting this
I just noticed a tweet by Denis Rancourt where he posts a graph of a huge spike in deaths in Bergamo Italy, and a flatline graph of contemporaneous excess deaths in Rome and uses this to conclude that "nothing was spreading". His graphs prove only that a 'deadly virus' was not spreading though. They do not necessarily rule out the possibility that a benign, genetically engineered, lab-created GOF virus was spreading, or had already spread, throughout the community. You can be a deadly pandemic denier without being a virus denier and thus, by logical extension, a toxic genetically engineered spike protein denier.
I agree and disagree. Facts matter. The fact is that SC-2 was real and was a genetically engineered GOF virus that was accidentally or intentionally released from a lab or labs. It's interesting in this respect that the US govt has just published a policy document on dual-use research of concern and potential pandemic pathogens (PPP). It states that in 2020 SC-2 was a PPP but as of May 2024 is no longer considered to be a PPP. It goes on to say however that "If SARS-CoV-2...were genetically modified to enhance transmissibility, virulence, & disrupt effectiveness of pre-existing immunity in humans it could still be anticipated to result in a PEPP [Pathogen w Enhanced Pandemic Potential]"
Peeps on X are saying this is all immensely confusing, not least Richard H. Ebright. To me, it's clear: the Whitehouse is making a statement of retrospective truth. SC2 WAS genetically engineered prior to 2020 specifically with the intention of artificially enhancing its transmissibility and virulence in order to create a pandemic pathogen. It didn't quite work out however the way they planned and so they then engineered the illusion of a 'deadly' (highly virulent) pandemic - which was critical to promote the widespread up take of the 'vaccine' (genetically engineered bioweapon pt 2). I think we need to keep these facts in focus. The iatrogenic kill was in itself part of a wider scheme.
But this is exactly JJ's point (that I share). I'm not disputing the facts. I'm not disputing that they are interesting. I'm not even disputing that they are important. But they continue to serve as a distraction from the more important fact - governments kill in order to facilitate self-serving narratives.
I might put it another way. Most of what we are presented by government and their minions via media and other paid celebrity propagandists are lies to obfuscate that they planned to foment a world panic as a means to an end. They didnt bumble cautiously altruistically trying to strike the best balance. They needed an avian flu out of China to overlap the world's existence in a tighter cargo net of surveillance and digital biosecurity.
I think JJ would call that “hand-waving.” I do not believe anything engineered produced worldwide illness. If something was spread, I believe, as JJ says, it was by infectious clones, not a lab leak or release. People did not pay attention in bio class and it shows. JJ knows.
100%. Coincidentally shared a brief exchange about this yesterday on an earlier post, I didn’t know much about JJ or his hypothesis but it makes about as much sense to me as any other. Bergamo was such an outlier (as was New York) early doors as to be utterly implausible with hindsight that anything “viral” was spreading … the massive, short lived spikes in deaths of the elderly must surely have been caused by iatrogenic causes, deliberately targeting the elderly and vulnerable through failure to treat etc, and then compounded through viral, manipulated footage of morgue trucks backed up in the streets, paupers’ graves and overrun Emergency rooms with bodies lying on cots in corridors. Neighbouring jurisdictions just a few dozen kilometres away saw no such “outbreak”.
Jay credits Jessica Hockett for her brilliant ongoing analysis of NYC deaths in weeks following the declared lockdown.. she's an incredible source of ongoing discoveries that was like six 9-11 events in 5 weeks then normal again.. super researcher brilliant contributions.. two weeks to slow the spread should stand forever as a reminder liars always lie!
Thanks, Pamela. Not bragging, I did my own dive into this last year as part of a submission to my home state’s Covid “review” and I think I ended up reading some of her work amongst several others. A bizarre, one-off, 4-5 week pantomime death spike in one or two New York Burroughs, just like Italy, when adjacent areas had nothing, testimony from hospital whistleblowers was that nothing untoward was happening in the wards, and then it just stopped. Complete and total bollocks, but the world and US was captivated by footage of paupers’ graves and the like from captured media portraying a mass die-off. Lies, depravity and corruption … that’s all our fascist governments in the west are good for, at least the puppets we have in elected office are too arrogant and narcissistic to even know just how clueless and destructive they are.
Sars Cov 2 does NOT exist if it helps, just like every other virology fairy tale...,,,They cannot 'genetically' modify anything, EXCEPT in their computers by re-arranging sequences of nucleotides. These new sequences or variants have NEVER been proven to exist in nature, and are complete bullshit just to scare the masses.
You are right about the promotion of the snakeoils (bioweapon).
PS Vaccinology is another 'profession' with less credence than the tooth fairy!!
If as you theorize no virus exists, why isn't there an alarmist attitude about deaths attributed to a cause that does not exist. Mass death from a condition that does not exist is surely a mass murder event. Kinda curious folks certain a virus wasn't cause of death don't give a hoot what killed all the folks with death certificates listing Covid.
More than happy to see a link to any no virus notables Baileys or Massey or whoever making a case that no virus as cause of death means folks were murdered by protocols and called it Covid and my statement will be corrected. Always leave open the possibility I'm mistaken.
I've done that repeatedly. Why don't you go see A Midwestern Doctor's rebuttal of your real hooey? And define "isolated" while you're at it? That word appears to just be noise. Or do you mean to lock it up in solitary confinement? Also, why do you have so many clones on these Substacks? Is this "no virus" run out of Tel Aviv like Wikipedia is?
But if there truly was a "toxic genetically engineered spike protein" spreading how come it spread widely prior to the emergency without anyone noticing? Zero excess deaths nor clusters of unusual illness reported at the time. So can't have been very toxic then.
So I am a "toxic genetically engineered spike protein denier".
The fixation on spike protein serves 2 purposes for the perpetrators:
(1) it makes people think that any and all vaccine harms might have been viral in origin
(2) it detracts from the dangerous nature of transfection as a whole, thus prolonging the life of the mRNA platform, as they can merely claim that "oops, they chose the wrong protein to express"
Nothing 'genetically' engineered exists apart from in these evil clown's computers.
I am a virus denier full stop these days. Virology is junk science just to back up that fraud Pasteur and the bullshit germ theory LIE.
Antoine Beauchamp was the man, but his work doesn't generate sfa for the Rockafella medicine money men, and their legions of puppets in the medical establishment,
My contention is that the spike protein is highly toxic when it enters the blood stream and organs. It is initially bound to the wild type virus. The SC-2 virus enters the body via the nasal passages and in most instances, the virus is very effectively neutralised there, resulting in a relatively harmless virus, which explains why there were no excess death spikes prior to the declaration of a pandemic. The spike protein was unable to get deep into the lungs, the blood stream and other organs in the vast majority of those infected, because the whole virus was effectively neutralised in the nasal passages. In some people however, the virus did go deeper into the lower respiratory tract and it multiplied uncontrollably. At the same time, the S1S2 cleaved spike detached from the virus and fragmented further into the two subunits and I believe it is the S2 subunit which is responsible for the damage, though I might be wrong on that, by binding to platelets and other proteins in the blood and organs. This explains how a highly toxic spike protein can be present in a relatively harmless genetically engineered virus. The 'vaccine' of course, caused the cells of the body to make trillions of synthetic replicas of the wild type spike protein, which are destroying the immune systems of those who were jabbed. mRNA and viral vector DNA 'vaccines', per se, are undoubtedly a dangerous technology, regardless of the target antigen which they produce, but we should not lose sight of the specific toxicity of the SC-2 spike and its documented pathology re. the Covid 'vaccines'.
You say that "the virus is very effectively neutralised there, resulting in a relatively harmless virus" and "The spike protein was unable to get deep into the lungs, the blood stream and other organs in the vast majority of those infected, because the whole virus was effectively neutralised in the nasal passages".
But then you say that that "explains why there were no excess death spikes prior to the declaration of a pandemic"
What do you mean? What happened by way of the declaration of the pandemic? Are you saying that that in itself caused a change in the behaviour of this virus?
Not trying to be abtuse here - but I don't see why those features (which I agree with) wouldn't apply throughout.
I should have been clearer Jonathan. I think it is almost certain now that the vast majority of 'Covid deaths' and the real spikes in excess deaths prior to the jab rollouts were iatrogenic and/or faked. If no pandemic had been declared and no mitigating measures put in place, then nobody would have noticed anything out of the usual, notwithstanding that a novel, genetically engineered GOF virus was still circulating, causing unusual cold/flu symptoms in some people. The tiny proportion of people who did genuinely die directly as a result of infection with C-19 would probably have gone unnoticed and put down to 'flu/pneumonia.
Ah OK - that makes sense. I don't, however, agree that they can make a virus which then traverses the globe. But say they could, do you think that they could make a much more harmful one than you think they actually did?
If yes, that must mean (surely) that you also support "pandemic preparedness" for "the next pandemic"?
(Because we have people like McCullough telling us that there will surely be another one soon, and it will be an engineered virus, so "buy our early treatment kits and be prepared".)
Or put differently, how important do you think outlawing GoF research is, compared to exposing the conjuring trick of the pandemic?
I think you will offer up that they are both important.
My fear - as you may have read before - is that they can pull this stunt any time they want with the mere narrative of escape (and nothing need actually escape) + propaganda + a suitably designed PCR test. That is all it takes. So yes, we can go all out and oulaw GoF research but then they can simply seed a story about a rogue lab etc and it's off we go again.
The only proper way of insulating humanity from this happening again is to show that the pandemic narrative was a complete fabrication, GoF is "claim of function" and there's nothing to be fearful of.
I generally concur with your analysis. Considering your take seems to be that not only is it disadvantageous to anticipate a man-made pandemic, but that it's beyond their ability to create one- what is your take on the spanish flue and lyme desease?
On the presumption that they can make a virus which is capable of infecting most of the globe (SC-2), one must assume that it is at least a possibility that such a virus in future could be more virulent than SC-2.
We shouldn't forget that they have spent 4 years strenuously denying the lab origin of SC-2, claiming instead that it was a zoonosis 'spillover' event and indeed the 'pandemic preparedness' industry still focuses largely on such spillovers. It seems odd then that they would now suddenly pivot to trying to scare the pants off us all by claiming that deadly novel viruses are being cooked up in labs across the world and could escape or be deployed by malicious actors at any time. That doesn't make an awful lot of sense to me.
Pandemic preparedness and implementation is first and foremost a power grab no matter how they choose to construct or promote a so called international health crisis. But I think we should be aware of the possibility that, if they don't outright fake a deadly pandemic, then they may possess the means to actually create and unleash one and it doesn't harm IMO to anticipate cheap and effective treatments based on our experience so far re. the effective treatment of Covid and Covid vaccine injuries. But it seems that you are of the opinion that GOF is not technically possible anyway and thus the claim that it is is all part and parcel of the scaremongering propaganda exercise. I think the evidence we have thus far suggests that mad scientists can indeed manufacture viable organisms in laboratories which can infect millions of people (or animals). I guess we will find out for sure soon enough, one way or the other.
One fine point of biology w big hat tip and thanks to brilliant teacher Jay Couey about limitation of Gain of Function and its mythology.
It is almost impossible to culture and grow an RNA virus because it is single strand it has extraordinarily low replication fidelity. Faulty copies of single strand molecule cannot circle the globe. That's only possible with Cat in the Hat pink snow!
This problem was solved by the virology field by CRISPR where "consensus" sequences could be cobbled together by keyboard then grown in mass quantities as DNA clones. It's very similar to production of mRNA transfections folks insist on calling Covid vaccines.
These clones have a fidelity Mother Nature does not support like weaponized anthrax only the batch in the lab changes properties. If those clones are dumped in a sewer or sprayed in a subway the initial infection potential is an astronomic volume of pure RNA molecules but it stops there. Whatever the infected person sheds or share abides by the laws of Mother Nature. It's a localized weapon & totally reliable way to find a signa wherever you want to seed one!
Ah that's a good way to explain why no one can culture viruses; because they have low replication!
Trouble is for CRISPR to work you have to have the spine of a replication competent infectious particle to work on to enable the engineered DNA to get inside the cell (if you can't inject it like the mRNA jabs; which have not been shown to be translated into the 'spike protein' anyway), otherwise they're just bits of DNA flying through the air. Viruses don't exist and scientists cannot make them whatever fancy tech they have.
This seems to me to be a way for malignant forces to keep going the scary bioengineered lab leak, that could be even worse next time.
I'm not convinced that JJ is as brilliant as you say. I am more persuaded that Kevin McKernan probably knows what he is talking about. The same guy who forced the vaccine manufacturers to admit that their products were contaminated with plasmid DNA.
It’s all a distraction. No one ever talks about the new flu shot that was released in 2019 for the 65+ age bracket. Flu shots have been killing the elderly for years and 2019 was the year of the new and improved quadruple dose. It’s my opinion GoF failed, while iatrogenicide was successful.
Yes! What was in that 2019 flu shot? I ended up suffered a partial prolapse a few weeks later, have often wondered if that had mRNA from the getgo plus all the snake venoms/spider toxins to destroy one's immune system.
Gain of function virus cannot spread. You can have a local infection event where some quantity of pure DNA clones are grown and folks made sick but Mother Nature will not change RNA replication biology because it's been made possible in a test tube.
It's possible to make gallons of viral clones, dump them in sewers or spray them in subways but all the Biotech hype aside Mother Nature still makes the rules that apply to transmission and RNA does not have the fidelity to sequence in the wild much less pandemic.
Everything about the magic of spike protein is to burn time and misdirect.. skip that!
Hi Jaime and Joel, this clinging on to a virus, specifically a GOF one , even though you accept that there's no epidemiological evidence for one at all; is interesting to me.
Lab leak (and therefore the possibility of a pandemic actually happening in the future when they get it right) and anthropogenic climate denial (therefore protecting the profits of fossil fuel and animal ag) seem to be on the same script you've been given.
Are you aware that the same academics who were busy debunking climate denial and concocting the 97% consensus meme have now turned their hand to "pre-bunking"/"inoculating" against "misinformation about the vaccines"? That's a big penny-dropper which has caused me to revisit The Science of climate change which I had believed before the pandemonium. Food for thought before one assumes it's BigOil we are up against.
You’re a little late to the party on this one. It’s basically exactly the same thing - globalist fear mongering - but on steroids. They can only maintain the myth of a deadly virus for so long. Climate on the other hand is a very long game - with a gravy train to match.
There are so many possibilities when groups of liars spin a web of lies. One fact that helps add a pinch of certainty is that single strand RNA has such low replication fidelity it cannot be cultured and grown from wild samples. CRISPR keyboard jockeys cobble together a consensus sequence from PCR tests that is grown in E.coli as DNA clones then purified in ways Mother Nature never does..
It's kinda like highly enriched uranium vs raw minerals in deep earth.. exposure risks are not in the same universe. Also key to note the concentrated clones did not gain function just purity & once in the wild replicate under Mother Nature's rules. No RNA molecule can pandemic but bad ideas & fear spread like wildfire! :~)
Sasha Latapova is absolutely SMEARING this man on her latest Substack. His Rumble channel Gigaohm Biological is an excellent show and I have much respect for him and Mark at Housatonic. Both need to be followed!
I think different people have different roles. There is no way the majority of people, at least now, can wrap their heads around the totality of what happened. And is continuing to happen. They are smart to limit their message. Of course, I’m grateful for people like JJ, like yourself, who are digging deeper
It's hard to tell whether people are 'sticking to their lane' in order to play it safer or whether they are deliberately turning our attention away from certain topics, such as how the death statistics in 2020 were created in key zones in order to create the necessary panic and compliance. JJ gives some the benefit of a doubt by referring to both types of limited hangouts: conscious meddlers and 'inadvertent' partial truth-tellers.
Wow. Shit just got real and hit the furiously spinning giant fan with an enormous *thunk*. Accountability is looking like a realistic prospect. Interestingly, the notice of liability accuses the WHO and Tedros of falsely declaring a PHEIC/pandemic, but it identifies Covid-19 as a real disease which can be treated with IVM etc.
So covid was just a really bad flu and the worldwide government response to covid, lockdowns, ventilators, school and business closures, midazolam, remdesivir, stay home til your lips turn blue, caused deaths. And for all those who did not die, a mRNA and a vector vaxx were developed to injure and kill the rest?
Correct. Apart from the "bad" part in flu. By all accounts, it wasn't even that. What we have learnt is that other conditions are much more significant. For exhibit #2,466, take a look at this recent work by Mortality Ben on Montana - https://usmortality.substack.com/p/montanas-age-standardized-mortality. This kind of excess mortality pattern is not the work of a spreading respiratory pathogen. There isn't a country in the world that shows it.
So was the NYC excess death spike in early 2020 invented or real?
Data fraud or murder? Because someone wants to have it both ways.
It's obviously bad if the government makes up death statistics. It's several orders of magnitude worse if governments strategically kill people (and the excess death spike was real).
Japan vaccinated just over 80% of its population & now there gearing up to manufacture a vaccine/s for virus X. 80% of japan's population could be deceased within the next decade & now they want to vaccinate them against an unknown virus, most probably bird flu. In the uk where I'm resident, we had a similar uptake of the vaccine/s, I suppose the millions of unvaccinated illegals pouring into the uk, will eventually end up replacing us. If you look at London & any major city in Britain, your find that the majority are now non white & everywhere they settle, they turn it into a shit hole, that might explain the sudden increase in TB, overcrowded properties, no hygiene, cooking raw meat outside with a blowtorch, we've got takeout here now with a 0 star rating 😉
No fortunately it wasn't me, I don't buy takeaways not after an incident many years ago, regarding an Indian takeaway in the valleys (wales) A group of customers got ill after purchasing a curry & ended up in hospital having their stomachs pumped, what they found was disgusting. They actually arrested a man that worked at the takeaway, it was human waste, but in fact what they found was this man's sperms. Yes he'd been jerking off outback in the kitchen & it was only white people he was targeting. It ended up in the local papers, so I know this story to be true.
JOEL, THANK YOU!!! You made my day by sharing JJ's work...he is brilliant and is the real deal..... his work needs to be shared so I thank you again....... he is underappreciated...he is fighting for our kids and grandkids..... ❤
Mark has no involvement with McCairn whose sidekick is Charles Rixey the incredible expert w all the answers that explain little but could work for an Angel Investor round for magic 8 ball virus detector. It's a chore for me to listen McCairn is so vulgar and spends so many hours blathering about nonsense. Who has that kind of time to burn or appetite for drek?
Sasha's vile smears are targeted at Jay and Mark Kulacz who gets credited often for unearthing incredible history of individuals and scientific development. Mark has been on my radar since 2015ish for his remarkable research skill long before Covid. Sasha launched into the smears of Mark & Jay as a duo in Doc Malik post with an interview of Mark about the opioid crisis and Sasha jumped in first to derail the focus into this smear that never happened.
My replies to what are clearly lies based on my uninterrupted 3+ years watching Jay live were polite but Malik revoked my subscription, banned me and deleted my comments. Most have been restored so folks can see what effort is made to remove challengers to Sasha's claims.
Sasha doubled down with her own post just about smears and despite the promoted image of a fantastic researcher we have ZERO links or transcript quotes or screenshots of what Sasha calls pedo behavior aimed at her child on Twitter. Quite spectacular. My exchange with Sasha reveal all that's needed to reach your own conclusion about her ethics.
Always a head scratcher why folks imagine a statement ended with ? is a clever form of dropping an implied conclusion as if it's a question. Kinda weird obsession with NYC colloquialisms as if a casual comment is worthy of a literary level analysis of linguistics.
The basic premise is flawed. If single stranded RNA viuses don't replicate well and can't be cultured and studied; how does he know that there are single stranded RNA viruses that don't replicate well?
JJ just did a detailed revisit (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2137113100) of the frustrating attempt he made to dialogue productively with the no-virus team, only to be dismissed and (deliberately?) misunderstood. I hope Mark Bailey listens to it all the way through, because it is about time to shed the meddlers and find common ground offered by Couey's ideas about exosomes, DNA clones and iatrogenic deaths. Some people find JJ's wrath toward some favourite "truth-tellers" off-putting, but it makes sense that a well-designed coup would require narrative-leaders for the resistance to keep us on the path-less-travelled and prevent our straying into the actual landscape to discover what really went down, no? Worth considering...
almost every sentence in that episode is a lie. i can go one by one with you if you wish or you can select any statement he makes there and i’ll prove it to you that JJ is deliberately lying. he never made any “attempts” with the no-virus team and nobody ever “dismissed” him regardless how obscene his theories are. there are emails that are public to showcase that. so he’s lying even about that.
Hi again Rosemary, I tried to watch the video but JJ's response to Cowan's basic observation that you can't talk about any experiment that doesn't use controls was to go off on a mad circle that 'viruses', that have never been shown to exist because none of the experiments use controls, make RNA. The cells make RNA. It's never been shown that it's not the cells that are making the RNA, because the experiments never use controls. JJ is producing a word salad.
I've been banned by the Bailey's (for pointing out basic errors in their logic on animal ag) but i will defend them in that I know they say the channels for debate, over the evidence, are always open; but that JJ never answers the fundamental problem of lack of controls.
Why is everyone clinging to 'exosomes' (vesicles that some cells seem to extrude and which have unknown function) for common ground? It's bizarre.
No evidence of a pandemic. No evidence of a virus. It doesn't matter what we think of the personalities on social media nor of how they behave.
Only the evidence (or lack of) matters.
JJ very much agrees with Nick and the PANDA team, and Denis Rancourt, and others who point out there is no evidence for a spreading pathogen. It is interesting that the Baileys are into banishing those who question their logic, and I would have thought that would be a red flag? JJ has a lot of time for Mark Bailey and would engage in a productive discussion, but somehow the no-virusers seem stuck on this "controls and isolation" obsession to the point of ridiculousness - have they ever followed through with the logic that IF there was no virus THEN that means that people were murdered? Why not? That's all JJ is "mad" about.
Hi Rosemary, no I don't know much about JJ but he seems deranged. He's mad that some are stuck on an obsession with the scientific method to the point of ridiculousness!! Jesus wept. That's just plain crazy. If you don't follow the scientific method and use controls we might just as well all write fantasies as to what is happening.
Yes, 'they' ie no virus team (I know because I am one of them) have clearly followed through on the fact that there was no virus; meaning that the elderly and others were murdered. I've written about it extensively and can't really understand why people, virus or no virus, aren't going on about it a lot more; about what a terrible way to die midazolam and deliberate dehydration is, added to the fact that they died alone separated from their loved ones. Who cares if the Baileys haven't, I don't follow them so i don't know.
But this is why I post about no virus, and the scientific method; because hundreds were also murdered by AZT, including Rock Hudson, Rudolf Nureyv, Freddie Mercury and Arthur Ashe and many took their own lives on a positive result for a virus that doesn't exist.
This spat is a storm in a tea cup. It doesn't matter what personalities do or don't do. Only the scientific evidence (or lack of it) is important, or people get away with murder. https://jowaller.substack.com/p/the-importance-of-intellectual-freedom
It’s very frustrating. I know the feeling.
Hi again Mike. Yes, the phrase 'weep with frustration' is very apt.
For all those murdered 🙏🏽
"Hi Rosemary, no I don't know much about JJ but he seems deranged. "
Nice assessment of the biology underlying the critique.
No virus camp will have a shot at credibility for me when they explain why massive deaths attributed to a cause they are certain is fraudulent claim doesn't trigger any curiosity about how folks were killed that have Covid as cause of death.
I’ve repeatedly said I believe all the additional deaths were iatrogenic.
Much has been written about sudden changes to medical procedures in hospitals care homes and the community.
I don’t see a gap requiring anything else
I was watching something last night...and what is missing from normal peoples brains is that every year we have maybe 60000 deaths mostly elderly from ILI ilnesses... (leaving the no virus/exosome debate out of it)....it is easy to bump this number up or down by withholding or administering antibiotics. ...
The withholding of antibiotics when most of us peasants know that bacteria live in our windpipe and easily turn to pneumonia when one is ill....well..that's something I'd like to see discussed....because I'd bet money all pneumonia are bacterial.....
Hi Mike, thank you. So have I. 🙏🏽
As part of the no virus camp who has written extensively about what terrible and lonely deaths many people had from remdesivir, midazolam (which i was on to from very early on), deliberate dehydration, forced ventilation and also AZT I hope i can have some credibility.
This is such a weird discrediting of the scientific method because of what certain people say or don't say.
My tracking of Biotech Mafia and pandemic planners spans more than two decades pre-Covid and have had a full galaxy of researchers, reporters, scientific sources and experts cross my path along the way. Many have long records casting them as credible or frauds. Understanding that NYTimes Science has been Monsanto-Rockefeller-Gates content from 1990s Golden Rice mythology.. biotech PR stalwarts w TIME for decades & cabal w Johns Hopkins & Harvard & WEF & WHO et al experts de jour are easy to flag liars..
What has been most challenging for me over many years was deeper understanding of p value games and model frauds and fundamental biology.. nobody has done more to teach me the biology, relevant tools, areas of speculation differentiated from plausibly known, observed or measured.
Jay has been a one of the best discoveries of recent times and brilliant teacher with decades of bench science to demystify and teach biology. Love him to the moon and back and deeply grateful for so much understanding beyond gmo feeding studies and clinical trials. If you aren't able to draw value from Jay's biology the problem is yours.. at this point in year five of the psyop anyone certain no viruses exist but not full force attacking the childhood vaccine schedule as criminal enterprise it is won't save lives just score points. No evidence as the whole game... yawn.
Pushing back on those pointing out the lack of evidence of viruses is in fact helping to allow more murders.
This from Sept 2022 https://jowaller.substack.com/p/influencers-in-health-freedom-please
JJ of course is, or was, scientific advisor to CHD so he has to follow the party line which is def vlruses and lab leak. RFK was even on camera saying that sars was engineered to attack Jews in particular or something like that wasn't he? Fruit loop.
Duesburg also claimed that HIV was some kind of benign passenger virus. The whole thing would have been totally avoided, and many AZT lives saved, if Montagnier and Gallo had just done Controls!
https://jowaller.substack.com/p/the-importance-of-intellectual-freedom
🙏🏽
Sorry Jo, but it's clear to me that you haven't listened to much of what JJ has been saying. Far from sticking to the CHD party line, he was actually fired late last year because his critiques got a bit too close to home for them; he was fooled by the lab leak vs zoonotic false dichotomy back in 2020, but for a year or two now he has been debunking this. He in no way defends the virology field as being air tight, in fact what he was actually attempting to do by contacting the no-virus team was a bridging exercise. He does not worship RFK or agree with everything he says. So you are jumping to a whole lot of wrong conclusions about him.
No Jay has NOT been on the lab leak virus theme & was let go by CHD for disagreement & his sections in Bobby's book explain it's mythology possible only w clones... very bad form to distort and invert Jay's position to such an extreme.
I don't click on links without explanation. What are they doing to me? I tried to find the above by searching substack but came up with nothing. Please elaborate.
Dr JJ Corey helped me get over the cognitive dissonance I was experiencing. On one hand the talking heads were shouting at me from the tv about the deadly virus in our midst, telling us life would never be the same, people were dropping dead right ,left and centre as evidenced by the elaborate pandemic shows in New York and Bergamot in Italy then I would look out my door and people were walking about as normal. His explanations based on biology brought me to my senses and I began to see the lies and deceit which has flooded the virus and vaccine world. He should be given worldwide exposure but never will, they are fighting desperately to keep everyone under the spell of fear from viruses and the resulting useless vaccines, it is a con game and protection racket.
I feel the same way, even though I got pretty sick during 'covid'. I recall some ex CDC fellow saying there were at least a 1000 potential pathogens that can cause respiratory infections (none of which can be easily cultivated from a patient). I now agree that SARS Cov2 as a somehow unique virus IS a myth. The problem is that truthful science has long been subverted and claims of certainty and understanding, for instance of virology or vaccinology have been vastly overstated so we get these extreme options - virus/ no virus, vaccines great/vaccines bad. It's a shame, we can't be more humble about what we really know or don't. I guess everyone wants to have a great resume.
We do not know the cause formally of any ILI.
We do know from a century of failed contagion attempts that it’s not as we’ve been told.
Bingo.
And so is the con and the clinging on to viruses existing at all. The ability of rogue scientists to engineer viruses (never shown to exist outside of a computer) has been deliberately kept alive for the next time.
https://jowaller.substack.com/p/x-ray-crystallography-and-3d-computer
Everyone should listen to JJ - his clone theory is well worth consideration.
Today’s stream:
https://stream.gigaohm.bio/w/jgVBwXnt9uQWJh7bnXSZRD
It's not a theory, it 's a hypothesis and to test it you'd do experiments with controls, which he's not doing, so it's really just a whim.
It is a hypothesis which isn't testable but he understands the biology and how dna clones work and how virus replication fidelity is so unbelievably low therefore it is more than a whim IMO.. Have you watched his original video where he sets out his reasoning?
It can't be tested yet he understands it? Say what? It's impossible to understand something that can't be observed. I have watched his video and I can't follow his 'reasoning' at all.
Samples from people with various symptoms from the alleged virus, plus samples from sick patients with various symptoms but thought not to have the 'virus', plus healthy people should be taken. These should be added to cell cultures and all treated in exactly the same way, with the researchers being blinded. Any further experiment eg with PCR testing for 'replication' fidelity of chosen sequences of RNA (never shown to come from a 'virus) would be done using samples from all the above cultures in tandem. Then we observe any 'exosomes', RNA or any DNA clones of said RNA sequences. Then we unblind. Then we can talk.
It sounds like JJ is observing the fake pandemic around the world ( ie the PCR testing for the RNA sequences never shown to come from a virus that were simply guessed at and crafted in a computer) and reverse engineering this observation and making up an idea of how the (fake) pandemic could have happened but with the sequences (never shown to come from a virus) actually being from an entity; though not one that causes disease.
It's unscientific madness.
It sounds like you haven't viewed the video where he explains the origin of his clone theory. Which video did you watch where you cannot understand his reasoning? He definitely does not base any of his ideas on results from PCR testing - in fact he refers to the PCR tests as total fraud. He also refers to the pandemic as a total fraud.
He can't work on RNA without using the PCR amplification technique (it's not a test; of cause it's part of the fraud of the pandemic) he wouldn't be able to see anything in his test tubes.
I am so not interested in the nonsense of what this dude thinks nor his little untestable theories about clones. God. You can't make a DNA clone from an RNA virus that doesn't exist.
This is all part of keeping the scary virus narrative going, and is part of the control using fear. Please don't fall for it.
If you don't follow the scientific method and do controls; people are allowed to get away with murder and it gets on my tits.
https://jowaller.substack.com/p/the-importance-of-intellectual-freedom
I've seen Ralphie s patent for producing non replicating infectious clones....
I haven't Duchess. I read an interesting post by Martin Neil and Jonathan Engler called Virus Origins and Gain (Claim) of Function research with a lot of support for the clone theory from various papers. Worth a read:
https://wherearethenumbers.substack.com/p/virus-origins-and-gain-claim-of-function
And I love the meme..they are gonna do it again cause you didn't hang them the first time.
Ps read that too. Liked it. Reconciles yeadon latypova jj couey and one other…all of whom need to be listened to IMHO….
We may never know but I saw Ralphie basics patents for non replicating infectious clones. I have watched gates and fauci say there would be a pandemic during trumps term of office and they are all with WHO saying disease x is bird flu…and it will be 20 times more pathogenic..you know we in us have altered bird flu to be infectious to humans….they are right out in open with the dupers delight on their faces. Seems to me they have threatened us twice…you don't like Trump we are gonna shut down the world..we want total control overevery countries health we are gonna kill more of you and kill all the cows and chickens and let you starve.
Yes that seems to be the plan and, not to be outdone, 'scientists' aka madmen in the UK have used 'CRISPR to alter chicken DNA to create birds resistant to deadly bird flu viruses like H5N1. But the study was a failure, according to one critic, because the technology also helped the virus replicate more efficiently in human cells'
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/crispr-gene-editing-chickens-bird-flu/
Ever know of any government in history that didn't murder its citizens as well as non citizens? The nature of ALL government is to maintain firm control and power. They know they wouldn't exist if the people ever discovered that they didn't need government to live a fine life. This secret must be protected at all costs and the very reason why government is nothing more than a slave/master relationship. The masters are so incompetent and cowardly that having free citizens running around scares them to death.
Kings -popes -Governments of all kinds- dictators— industries such as health etc —are all in the category of doing what is best for them and no matter how you twist it they are a bunch of self serving narcissistic wolves parading around pretending to be benevolent and caring about the public and “on your side to protect you” lie.
How do they get away with it? Many ways including dumbing down of the populations, hidden agendas and a coterie of psychopaths who enjoy murdering and torturing.
Centuries of practicing the above has only taught them to be more clever HENCE the position we now find ourselves in.
Talk talk talk is not the way to destroy what is occurring.
It involves using evil itself to destroy evil. On its own it is a virus that is more insidious than one can imagine (unless you’re evil; they will sense the depravity of blatant lies and in that case will only rise up against an evil entity if it’s become threatened. When using evil for a good purpose such as destroying evil out of control, then it can be very successful because God will allow good to prevail always.
Pity there is no vaccine for psychopathy.
I couldn't agree more it's totally undeniable in my opinion but it's incredible how many people don't see it. I have the utmost respect for you and your raising awareness about the diabolical acts theses monsters are committing have committed Nd are going to commit. Respect to you Joe .
Awesome, JJ needs more exposure because the information his twitch videos gives is extremely important because some of our "hero's" may not be such.
Chetty was the first along with Yeadon soon after, to me it's obvious and excellent that a great substack like yours and a well qualified person like JJ is highlighting this
I just noticed a tweet by Denis Rancourt where he posts a graph of a huge spike in deaths in Bergamo Italy, and a flatline graph of contemporaneous excess deaths in Rome and uses this to conclude that "nothing was spreading". His graphs prove only that a 'deadly virus' was not spreading though. They do not necessarily rule out the possibility that a benign, genetically engineered, lab-created GOF virus was spreading, or had already spread, throughout the community. You can be a deadly pandemic denier without being a virus denier and thus, by logical extension, a toxic genetically engineered spike protein denier.
Indeed. None of that matters. The suffering is due to strategic government policy. Everything else is a distraction.
I agree and disagree. Facts matter. The fact is that SC-2 was real and was a genetically engineered GOF virus that was accidentally or intentionally released from a lab or labs. It's interesting in this respect that the US govt has just published a policy document on dual-use research of concern and potential pandemic pathogens (PPP). It states that in 2020 SC-2 was a PPP but as of May 2024 is no longer considered to be a PPP. It goes on to say however that "If SARS-CoV-2...were genetically modified to enhance transmissibility, virulence, & disrupt effectiveness of pre-existing immunity in humans it could still be anticipated to result in a PEPP [Pathogen w Enhanced Pandemic Potential]"
Peeps on X are saying this is all immensely confusing, not least Richard H. Ebright. To me, it's clear: the Whitehouse is making a statement of retrospective truth. SC2 WAS genetically engineered prior to 2020 specifically with the intention of artificially enhancing its transmissibility and virulence in order to create a pandemic pathogen. It didn't quite work out however the way they planned and so they then engineered the illusion of a 'deadly' (highly virulent) pandemic - which was critical to promote the widespread up take of the 'vaccine' (genetically engineered bioweapon pt 2). I think we need to keep these facts in focus. The iatrogenic kill was in itself part of a wider scheme.
But this is exactly JJ's point (that I share). I'm not disputing the facts. I'm not disputing that they are interesting. I'm not even disputing that they are important. But they continue to serve as a distraction from the more important fact - governments kill in order to facilitate self-serving narratives.
I might put it another way. Most of what we are presented by government and their minions via media and other paid celebrity propagandists are lies to obfuscate that they planned to foment a world panic as a means to an end. They didnt bumble cautiously altruistically trying to strike the best balance. They needed an avian flu out of China to overlap the world's existence in a tighter cargo net of surveillance and digital biosecurity.
NO ACTUAL PATHOGEN NEEDED. Only the fear of one.
It is called the power of suggestion.
The tactics deployed during the Plandemonium were far more than mere suggestions.
I think JJ would call that “hand-waving.” I do not believe anything engineered produced worldwide illness. If something was spread, I believe, as JJ says, it was by infectious clones, not a lab leak or release. People did not pay attention in bio class and it shows. JJ knows.
100%. Coincidentally shared a brief exchange about this yesterday on an earlier post, I didn’t know much about JJ or his hypothesis but it makes about as much sense to me as any other. Bergamo was such an outlier (as was New York) early doors as to be utterly implausible with hindsight that anything “viral” was spreading … the massive, short lived spikes in deaths of the elderly must surely have been caused by iatrogenic causes, deliberately targeting the elderly and vulnerable through failure to treat etc, and then compounded through viral, manipulated footage of morgue trucks backed up in the streets, paupers’ graves and overrun Emergency rooms with bodies lying on cots in corridors. Neighbouring jurisdictions just a few dozen kilometres away saw no such “outbreak”.
Jay credits Jessica Hockett for her brilliant ongoing analysis of NYC deaths in weeks following the declared lockdown.. she's an incredible source of ongoing discoveries that was like six 9-11 events in 5 weeks then normal again.. super researcher brilliant contributions.. two weeks to slow the spread should stand forever as a reminder liars always lie!
https://www.woodhouse76.com/p/new-york-city
Thanks, Pamela. Not bragging, I did my own dive into this last year as part of a submission to my home state’s Covid “review” and I think I ended up reading some of her work amongst several others. A bizarre, one-off, 4-5 week pantomime death spike in one or two New York Burroughs, just like Italy, when adjacent areas had nothing, testimony from hospital whistleblowers was that nothing untoward was happening in the wards, and then it just stopped. Complete and total bollocks, but the world and US was captivated by footage of paupers’ graves and the like from captured media portraying a mass die-off. Lies, depravity and corruption … that’s all our fascist governments in the west are good for, at least the puppets we have in elected office are too arrogant and narcissistic to even know just how clueless and destructive they are.
And they(govt) are not done yet....
Sars Cov 2 does NOT exist if it helps, just like every other virology fairy tale...,,,They cannot 'genetically' modify anything, EXCEPT in their computers by re-arranging sequences of nucleotides. These new sequences or variants have NEVER been proven to exist in nature, and are complete bullshit just to scare the masses.
You are right about the promotion of the snakeoils (bioweapon).
PS Vaccinology is another 'profession' with less credence than the tooth fairy!!
If as you theorize no virus exists, why isn't there an alarmist attitude about deaths attributed to a cause that does not exist. Mass death from a condition that does not exist is surely a mass murder event. Kinda curious folks certain a virus wasn't cause of death don't give a hoot what killed all the folks with death certificates listing Covid.
The “diagnosis” & “cause of death” was more or less MANDATED.
These weren’t in any way the result of clinical thinking deeply.
No. They put covid because they were ordered to.
There was no such novel illness.
Folks didn't give a hoot? Are you mad?
More than happy to see a link to any no virus notables Baileys or Massey or whoever making a case that no virus as cause of death means folks were murdered by protocols and called it Covid and my statement will be corrected. Always leave open the possibility I'm mistaken.
Don't bother Chelseabern, I've been trying for over 3 years!
Tiresome hooey!
Please provide us with proof of isolated SarsCo2 to dispel the alleged hooey.
I've done that repeatedly. Why don't you go see A Midwestern Doctor's rebuttal of your real hooey? And define "isolated" while you're at it? That word appears to just be noise. Or do you mean to lock it up in solitary confinement? Also, why do you have so many clones on these Substacks? Is this "no virus" run out of Tel Aviv like Wikipedia is?
Sapere aude!!!!
https://odysee.com/@ivikthor:c/p1bkp55x78aK:2?r=yv2DMWnjYmtzM2uXd69AJYM3d64QbyCn
Get educated or be enslaved
https://odysee.com/@ivikthor:c/Scientific-method-apply-to-virology-Scam:f?r=yv2DMWnjYmtzM2uXd69AJYM3d64QbyCn
Get educated or be enslaved
https://odysee.com/@ivikthor:c/the-fallacies-of-virology-amp-the-inversion-of-natural-health:4?r=yv2DMWnjYmtzM2uXd69AJYM3d64QbyCn
But if there truly was a "toxic genetically engineered spike protein" spreading how come it spread widely prior to the emergency without anyone noticing? Zero excess deaths nor clusters of unusual illness reported at the time. So can't have been very toxic then.
So I am a "toxic genetically engineered spike protein denier".
The fixation on spike protein serves 2 purposes for the perpetrators:
(1) it makes people think that any and all vaccine harms might have been viral in origin
(2) it detracts from the dangerous nature of transfection as a whole, thus prolonging the life of the mRNA platform, as they can merely claim that "oops, they chose the wrong protein to express"
Nothing 'genetically' engineered exists apart from in these evil clown's computers.
I am a virus denier full stop these days. Virology is junk science just to back up that fraud Pasteur and the bullshit germ theory LIE.
Antoine Beauchamp was the man, but his work doesn't generate sfa for the Rockafella medicine money men, and their legions of puppets in the medical establishment,
Because the declaration of an "emergency" was actually an announcement it come to an end; time for the iatrogenic portion.
My contention is that the spike protein is highly toxic when it enters the blood stream and organs. It is initially bound to the wild type virus. The SC-2 virus enters the body via the nasal passages and in most instances, the virus is very effectively neutralised there, resulting in a relatively harmless virus, which explains why there were no excess death spikes prior to the declaration of a pandemic. The spike protein was unable to get deep into the lungs, the blood stream and other organs in the vast majority of those infected, because the whole virus was effectively neutralised in the nasal passages. In some people however, the virus did go deeper into the lower respiratory tract and it multiplied uncontrollably. At the same time, the S1S2 cleaved spike detached from the virus and fragmented further into the two subunits and I believe it is the S2 subunit which is responsible for the damage, though I might be wrong on that, by binding to platelets and other proteins in the blood and organs. This explains how a highly toxic spike protein can be present in a relatively harmless genetically engineered virus. The 'vaccine' of course, caused the cells of the body to make trillions of synthetic replicas of the wild type spike protein, which are destroying the immune systems of those who were jabbed. mRNA and viral vector DNA 'vaccines', per se, are undoubtedly a dangerous technology, regardless of the target antigen which they produce, but we should not lose sight of the specific toxicity of the SC-2 spike and its documented pathology re. the Covid 'vaccines'.
You say that "the virus is very effectively neutralised there, resulting in a relatively harmless virus" and "The spike protein was unable to get deep into the lungs, the blood stream and other organs in the vast majority of those infected, because the whole virus was effectively neutralised in the nasal passages".
But then you say that that "explains why there were no excess death spikes prior to the declaration of a pandemic"
What do you mean? What happened by way of the declaration of the pandemic? Are you saying that that in itself caused a change in the behaviour of this virus?
Not trying to be abtuse here - but I don't see why those features (which I agree with) wouldn't apply throughout.
I should have been clearer Jonathan. I think it is almost certain now that the vast majority of 'Covid deaths' and the real spikes in excess deaths prior to the jab rollouts were iatrogenic and/or faked. If no pandemic had been declared and no mitigating measures put in place, then nobody would have noticed anything out of the usual, notwithstanding that a novel, genetically engineered GOF virus was still circulating, causing unusual cold/flu symptoms in some people. The tiny proportion of people who did genuinely die directly as a result of infection with C-19 would probably have gone unnoticed and put down to 'flu/pneumonia.
Ah OK - that makes sense. I don't, however, agree that they can make a virus which then traverses the globe. But say they could, do you think that they could make a much more harmful one than you think they actually did?
If yes, that must mean (surely) that you also support "pandemic preparedness" for "the next pandemic"?
(Because we have people like McCullough telling us that there will surely be another one soon, and it will be an engineered virus, so "buy our early treatment kits and be prepared".)
Or put differently, how important do you think outlawing GoF research is, compared to exposing the conjuring trick of the pandemic?
I think you will offer up that they are both important.
My fear - as you may have read before - is that they can pull this stunt any time they want with the mere narrative of escape (and nothing need actually escape) + propaganda + a suitably designed PCR test. That is all it takes. So yes, we can go all out and oulaw GoF research but then they can simply seed a story about a rogue lab etc and it's off we go again.
The only proper way of insulating humanity from this happening again is to show that the pandemic narrative was a complete fabrication, GoF is "claim of function" and there's nothing to be fearful of.
I generally concur with your analysis. Considering your take seems to be that not only is it disadvantageous to anticipate a man-made pandemic, but that it's beyond their ability to create one- what is your take on the spanish flue and lyme desease?
Cheees and keep up the great work!
On the presumption that they can make a virus which is capable of infecting most of the globe (SC-2), one must assume that it is at least a possibility that such a virus in future could be more virulent than SC-2.
We shouldn't forget that they have spent 4 years strenuously denying the lab origin of SC-2, claiming instead that it was a zoonosis 'spillover' event and indeed the 'pandemic preparedness' industry still focuses largely on such spillovers. It seems odd then that they would now suddenly pivot to trying to scare the pants off us all by claiming that deadly novel viruses are being cooked up in labs across the world and could escape or be deployed by malicious actors at any time. That doesn't make an awful lot of sense to me.
Pandemic preparedness and implementation is first and foremost a power grab no matter how they choose to construct or promote a so called international health crisis. But I think we should be aware of the possibility that, if they don't outright fake a deadly pandemic, then they may possess the means to actually create and unleash one and it doesn't harm IMO to anticipate cheap and effective treatments based on our experience so far re. the effective treatment of Covid and Covid vaccine injuries. But it seems that you are of the opinion that GOF is not technically possible anyway and thus the claim that it is is all part and parcel of the scaremongering propaganda exercise. I think the evidence we have thus far suggests that mad scientists can indeed manufacture viable organisms in laboratories which can infect millions of people (or animals). I guess we will find out for sure soon enough, one way or the other.
One fine point of biology w big hat tip and thanks to brilliant teacher Jay Couey about limitation of Gain of Function and its mythology.
It is almost impossible to culture and grow an RNA virus because it is single strand it has extraordinarily low replication fidelity. Faulty copies of single strand molecule cannot circle the globe. That's only possible with Cat in the Hat pink snow!
This problem was solved by the virology field by CRISPR where "consensus" sequences could be cobbled together by keyboard then grown in mass quantities as DNA clones. It's very similar to production of mRNA transfections folks insist on calling Covid vaccines.
These clones have a fidelity Mother Nature does not support like weaponized anthrax only the batch in the lab changes properties. If those clones are dumped in a sewer or sprayed in a subway the initial infection potential is an astronomic volume of pure RNA molecules but it stops there. Whatever the infected person sheds or share abides by the laws of Mother Nature. It's a localized weapon & totally reliable way to find a signa wherever you want to seed one!
Ah that's a good way to explain why no one can culture viruses; because they have low replication!
Trouble is for CRISPR to work you have to have the spine of a replication competent infectious particle to work on to enable the engineered DNA to get inside the cell (if you can't inject it like the mRNA jabs; which have not been shown to be translated into the 'spike protein' anyway), otherwise they're just bits of DNA flying through the air. Viruses don't exist and scientists cannot make them whatever fancy tech they have.
This seems to me to be a way for malignant forces to keep going the scary bioengineered lab leak, that could be even worse next time.
I'm not convinced that JJ is as brilliant as you say. I am more persuaded that Kevin McKernan probably knows what he is talking about. The same guy who forced the vaccine manufacturers to admit that their products were contaminated with plasmid DNA.
Dr. Chetty says .the spike protein was a contrived poison..the virus was just the vector....he refers to it as a toxin....
It’s all a distraction. No one ever talks about the new flu shot that was released in 2019 for the 65+ age bracket. Flu shots have been killing the elderly for years and 2019 was the year of the new and improved quadruple dose. It’s my opinion GoF failed, while iatrogenicide was successful.
Yes! What was in that 2019 flu shot? I ended up suffered a partial prolapse a few weeks later, have often wondered if that had mRNA from the getgo plus all the snake venoms/spider toxins to destroy one's immune system.
Wow, I’m so sorry. They want us dead.
Gain of function virus cannot spread. You can have a local infection event where some quantity of pure DNA clones are grown and folks made sick but Mother Nature will not change RNA replication biology because it's been made possible in a test tube.
It's possible to make gallons of viral clones, dump them in sewers or spray them in subways but all the Biotech hype aside Mother Nature still makes the rules that apply to transmission and RNA does not have the fidelity to sequence in the wild much less pandemic.
Everything about the magic of spike protein is to burn time and misdirect.. skip that!
Eh?
Hi Jaime and Joel, this clinging on to a virus, specifically a GOF one , even though you accept that there's no epidemiological evidence for one at all; is interesting to me.
Lab leak (and therefore the possibility of a pandemic actually happening in the future when they get it right) and anthropogenic climate denial (therefore protecting the profits of fossil fuel and animal ag) seem to be on the same script you've been given.
Are you aware that the same academics who were busy debunking climate denial and concocting the 97% consensus meme have now turned their hand to "pre-bunking"/"inoculating" against "misinformation about the vaccines"? That's a big penny-dropper which has caused me to revisit The Science of climate change which I had believed before the pandemonium. Food for thought before one assumes it's BigOil we are up against.
You’re a little late to the party on this one. It’s basically exactly the same thing - globalist fear mongering - but on steroids. They can only maintain the myth of a deadly virus for so long. Climate on the other hand is a very long game - with a gravy train to match.
There are so many possibilities when groups of liars spin a web of lies. One fact that helps add a pinch of certainty is that single strand RNA has such low replication fidelity it cannot be cultured and grown from wild samples. CRISPR keyboard jockeys cobble together a consensus sequence from PCR tests that is grown in E.coli as DNA clones then purified in ways Mother Nature never does..
It's kinda like highly enriched uranium vs raw minerals in deep earth.. exposure risks are not in the same universe. Also key to note the concentrated clones did not gain function just purity & once in the wild replicate under Mother Nature's rules. No RNA molecule can pandemic but bad ideas & fear spread like wildfire! :~)
Sasha Latapova is absolutely SMEARING this man on her latest Substack. His Rumble channel Gigaohm Biological is an excellent show and I have much respect for him and Mark at Housatonic. Both need to be followed!
Yes, thank you, Stephanie....and Jessica Hockett, too..... https://www.woodhouse76.com/
I think different people have different roles. There is no way the majority of people, at least now, can wrap their heads around the totality of what happened. And is continuing to happen. They are smart to limit their message. Of course, I’m grateful for people like JJ, like yourself, who are digging deeper
It's hard to tell whether people are 'sticking to their lane' in order to play it safer or whether they are deliberately turning our attention away from certain topics, such as how the death statistics in 2020 were created in key zones in order to create the necessary panic and compliance. JJ gives some the benefit of a doubt by referring to both types of limited hangouts: conscious meddlers and 'inadvertent' partial truth-tellers.
Wow. Shit just got real and hit the furiously spinning giant fan with an enormous *thunk*. Accountability is looking like a realistic prospect. Interestingly, the notice of liability accuses the WHO and Tedros of falsely declaring a PHEIC/pandemic, but it identifies Covid-19 as a real disease which can be treated with IVM etc.
https://drtesslawrie.substack.com/p/the-notice-of-liability-delivered
So covid was just a really bad flu and the worldwide government response to covid, lockdowns, ventilators, school and business closures, midazolam, remdesivir, stay home til your lips turn blue, caused deaths. And for all those who did not die, a mRNA and a vector vaxx were developed to injure and kill the rest?
Am I reading this right?
Correct. Apart from the "bad" part in flu. By all accounts, it wasn't even that. What we have learnt is that other conditions are much more significant. For exhibit #2,466, take a look at this recent work by Mortality Ben on Montana - https://usmortality.substack.com/p/montanas-age-standardized-mortality. This kind of excess mortality pattern is not the work of a spreading respiratory pathogen. There isn't a country in the world that shows it.
So was the NYC excess death spike in early 2020 invented or real?
Data fraud or murder? Because someone wants to have it both ways.
It's obviously bad if the government makes up death statistics. It's several orders of magnitude worse if governments strategically kill people (and the excess death spike was real).
It was real. As was the one in the UK caused by midazolam and deliberate dehydratioon in care homes. https://jowaller.substack.com/p/seeing-is-believing
Japan vaccinated just over 80% of its population & now there gearing up to manufacture a vaccine/s for virus X. 80% of japan's population could be deceased within the next decade & now they want to vaccinate them against an unknown virus, most probably bird flu. In the uk where I'm resident, we had a similar uptake of the vaccine/s, I suppose the millions of unvaccinated illegals pouring into the uk, will eventually end up replacing us. If you look at London & any major city in Britain, your find that the majority are now non white & everywhere they settle, they turn it into a shit hole, that might explain the sudden increase in TB, overcrowded properties, no hygiene, cooking raw meat outside with a blowtorch, we've got takeout here now with a 0 star rating 😉
OMG, is that you? I read about that takeaway yesterday!
No fortunately it wasn't me, I don't buy takeaways not after an incident many years ago, regarding an Indian takeaway in the valleys (wales) A group of customers got ill after purchasing a curry & ended up in hospital having their stomachs pumped, what they found was disgusting. They actually arrested a man that worked at the takeaway, it was human waste, but in fact what they found was this man's sperms. Yes he'd been jerking off outback in the kitchen & it was only white people he was targeting. It ended up in the local papers, so I know this story to be true.
JOEL, THANK YOU!!! You made my day by sharing JJ's work...he is brilliant and is the real deal..... his work needs to be shared so I thank you again....... he is underappreciated...he is fighting for our kids and grandkids..... ❤
You need to listen to Dr. Kevin McCairn not Couey.
First get the high test weed to numb your brain for McCairn's hours of blathering.
That would freak a few people out 🧠 and listen to UK vet Roger Meacock the life of prion, and Stefanie Seneff..
Listen to both
Hmm; Sasha Latypova also mentions Dr. Kevin McCairn's "sidekick" Mark Housatonic as attacking her.
Mark has no involvement with McCairn whose sidekick is Charles Rixey the incredible expert w all the answers that explain little but could work for an Angel Investor round for magic 8 ball virus detector. It's a chore for me to listen McCairn is so vulgar and spends so many hours blathering about nonsense. Who has that kind of time to burn or appetite for drek?
Sasha's vile smears are targeted at Jay and Mark Kulacz who gets credited often for unearthing incredible history of individuals and scientific development. Mark has been on my radar since 2015ish for his remarkable research skill long before Covid. Sasha launched into the smears of Mark & Jay as a duo in Doc Malik post with an interview of Mark about the opioid crisis and Sasha jumped in first to derail the focus into this smear that never happened.
My replies to what are clearly lies based on my uninterrupted 3+ years watching Jay live were polite but Malik revoked my subscription, banned me and deleted my comments. Most have been restored so folks can see what effort is made to remove challengers to Sasha's claims.
Sasha doubled down with her own post just about smears and despite the promoted image of a fantastic researcher we have ZERO links or transcript quotes or screenshots of what Sasha calls pedo behavior aimed at her child on Twitter. Quite spectacular. My exchange with Sasha reveal all that's needed to reach your own conclusion about her ethics.
💯 agree with you PamelaDrew.
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Objective review, somewhere? Slander (from anyone) does not enlighten nor clarify.
Why do you use a Slovenian word? (drek)
Drek is common term for New Yorkers who adapt language from all over the globe.
New Yorkers' primary language is Slovene? Why'd they go so far afield, when German "Dreck" would have sufficed?
Always a head scratcher why folks imagine a statement ended with ? is a clever form of dropping an implied conclusion as if it's a question. Kinda weird obsession with NYC colloquialisms as if a casual comment is worthy of a literary level analysis of linguistics.
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The basic premise is flawed. If single stranded RNA viuses don't replicate well and can't be cultured and studied; how does he know that there are single stranded RNA viruses that don't replicate well?