Great move!! In many ways, we need to do this. As I wrote in your telegram group, I'm not as positive about blockchain as you are (due to what I've read from Catherine Austin Fitts, who is brilliant and 100% on our side and into our making our own communities). I am 100% into our making our own communities and connections. At some point, we no longer need or desire or are willing to keep proving the proven (the dangers of the injections, etc), we need to put our energies into what gives us life.
Joel, I asked after you at the Better Way Conference where I met Clare Craig. I thought you might be there. I have followed your sage advice and words of wisdom since the beginning of covid. It is hard to say farewell to you. So I will only say thank you. You will be missed on substack. Even though I read the same evidence regarding the dangerous experimental biologicals, in different format, by numerous researchers, doctors and scientists, I always look for your confirmation. It is hard to accept your departure from substack. I have saved all your posts. You are a friend I never met in person, but so pleased to have known you.
I understand IBM and others are into it. As if they would a large mass to attain freedom. Nothing is more dangerous to control and tyranny than to allow freedom to flourish somewhere as freedom inspires oppressed people to aspire for it.
IBM and the other big cloud providers are focused on enterprise blockchain (where I still operate as it happens). Although the technology is similar, the ethos is very different. Essentially, private blockchains are more efficient and effective ways of running a business and serving customers, public blockchains allow networks of people to transact peer-to-peer with little to no reliance on public authorities to provide "safe" frameworks to do so.
They can't outlaw a technology. They can control products that masquerade as money and regulate the fiat gateways and brokers but they can never stop distributed networks from operating.
there was a huge missed opportunity with the advent of blockchain, and that was appreciating the philosophy behind the concept. that's the important takeaway that i see, and yes, there's no way to outlaw a concept like decentralization.
once a concept becomes tied to finance, like BitCoin, it becomes corrupted. that's my simplified observation.
I didn't say governments couldn't use the same technology for nefarious means, I said government can't take down networks with host nodes that are distributed.
Weve selected 12 Australian health innovators to showcase their innovations to world hospital and healthcare leaders from Australian Healthcare & Hospitals Association... Toukan Labs ...
"They" follow the money in order to exploit and control. Have you noticed they don't give a bat's wing re the poor and homeless? Look at all the ghettos in the Dems States.
$ per hectare no doubt. Also if you're going to do dystopian "anarchy" (ffs anarchists *do not* need blockchain) maybe an easily corruptible government is key.
In the last 6 months Substack has fallen behind. I'm disappointed. No longer at the cutting edge it is now the establishment with bitcoin bros on the make.
Joel, you’re among the cleverest people who I’ve been lucky enough to have jogged alongside for a while, early on in this crime!
I recall you & I had internally calibrated acceptance levels for when we weren’t willing any longer to play a diplomatic, long game and, to pursue different furrows, departed the prior team upon realisation that massed vaccination was associated with a pulse of deaths that we both considered highly likely to be causal. You took a helluva lot of flak over it. Since with Wolfgang Wodarg in December 2020, I’d already nailed my colours to the mast, I copped plenty, too,
I’m not fit & well enough to even want to cope long term outside of what passes for civilisation. I suffer chronic pain which is just manageable provided I have access to the meds which work for me & provided I have a reasonably stable environment in which I can adequately enough handle the personal care levels I must do to remain stable
If the wheels fall off, I want enough time to decide what I’m going to do: a few months at most, I’m reckoning.
It’s partly because there’s absolutely nothing for me if we all go down that I don’t mind what I say or do, provided I can justify my interpretations, inferences, conclusions & prognoses. I’ve never been physically brave but I could never stand injustices. There’s nothing they can do to intimidate me. It’s easier to be straightforward when you can see the end of the line!
One serious concern I have about even the best run independent communities is this. If I’m right that a bunch of psychopathic elites intend to launch (or rather, conclude) the 4th IR (& likely then depopulate), won’t the perpetrators simply tap up & take over, at their leisure?
I like the overall idea of a sustainable community without state intervention or control. I don't like using electronic instruments like blockchain to enforce rights and contracts. The recent collapse of bitcoin and the other crypto currencies and the fact that many crypto market makers are totally insolvent means that all the money you turn into blockchain electrons may be gone forever, depending on the needs and whims of the admin.
Cryptocurrencies are not blockchains. They run on blockchains but blockchains can be used for a lot, lot more. And not all blockchains are the same. Proof-of-Work blockchains are the most decentralised but also the most inefficient. There are other, more efficient blockchains if you compromise (a little) on decentralisation.
Sounds interesting although I don’t understand enough about blockchain and crypto to see how that fits in with establishing local agriculture in small communities. Personally, my husband and I are escaping the big city to a 2 acre property where we plan on growing some food and having room to breathe. Parallel community/structures outside of the centralized government is what we hope to also tap into
How many more decades are you going to retain this delusion that 'Government' = Your Caring Father or is a Perfect Protector?
There IS NO such thing as 'Government.' There is ONLY http://allaregreen.us/ and us, who are supposed to hold them accountable, & you are, for some inexplicable reason begging them to police themselves.
While children die. You're retaining an infantile BELIEF while children die. Care to review your priorities here? The people taking that $ aren't going to admit they took it, that it affected their decisions OR give it back. That's why lobbying IS illegal, once you take it, you can do none of those things.
It's OUR JOB to fix this; Not theirs. There are SEVERAL legal avenues open to us here that can end the mandates & you, Reiner Fullermich & everyone else are AVOIDING them in favor of begging 'Daddy-Government' to please listen, when there IS NO such person as that. You are begging an Imaginary Entity to show 'He' cares when 'He' doesn't exist.
I'm no expert either but in principle the blockchain is a ledger of account, so imagine a system that declares and records ownership/title, along with debts, payments etc etc, which does not require a government or lawyers to confirm.
It doesn't answer every problem, just those to do with record-keeping. Thing is, nail record-keeping and all kinds of trade and exchanges open up, which is the foundation of the original Bitcoin. It's not about the currency itself, it's that ultimately all exchanges and trades come down to record-keeping. For example your bank account is just a record.
i think you are right that a ledger-system is one of the core tenets, along with transparency and immutability. successfully implemented, it's a system that cannot be corrupted (as easily as legacy systems at least).
when multiple copies of this ledger exist, it becomes very difficult to modify and pretend like it's been that way all along. using the same philosophy, creating numerous versions of our "classic" way of human existence. detached from current captured institutions, will make it very difficult to do a mass formation psychosis type of thing on the public.
I love the idea. There’s a main plank missing & it’s Defence. People behave better when they know rules are kept. And communities can’t relax if they feel that invasion is likely.
Interesting. I long ago wrote a business plan with a friend, Nick Raumm, for such a community, a project we called SUN, Sustaining Universal Needs. I am going to see Nick this weekend and next week, at Placke Organic Farm in southern Wisconsin, which he and his wife Kelly operate.
What you are talking about sounds like the theory of anarchy maturing, which I am writing about currently. I will be eager to hear about your progress.
Well, that is unfortunate. Telegram continues to say they have sent me a message, but nothing has shown up after several attempts to log in on both the computer and phone. I am not finding Telegram particularly simple or user friendly. Sorry.
nothing in spam. No sms messages. everything I have tried with telegram is leading to a dead end. I even restarted my phone. I am not a techie, but I am not a neophyte either...
I suppose it would be WHD, though I am typing on my new Linux Ubuntu System 76, I supposedly downloaded Telegram but I am having some difficulty figuring it out.
My android phone was blocking the download. Now downloaded, I try to log in on the computer, it asks for my phone number to log in, it replies, too many tries, try again later. Nuts.
At 420ppm CO2, loss of polar ice, loss of Gulf Stream, loss of jet-stream, loss of Ocean fish, loss is pollinators, loss of fresh water, loss of land fill, loss of topsoil, loss of energy, loss of biodiversity, loss of Amazon, spillover of diseases from land reclamation, loss of supply chains, loss of global order, loss of social cohesion, resource wars for water and oil etc. We are no longer talking about the luxury of choice, we are talking about the loss of options and inevitable transition from socially driven systems to binary systems that do not need to breath air, aka, China’s surveillance state. Think Uyghurs!
I don’t recognise what you’re claiming as even faintly approximating reality.
The globe hasn’t significantly warmed in the modern era & it’s distinctly refusing to follow changes in atmospheric [CO2] which is definitely greater now than when I was born, by around a third.
Historically atmospheric [CO2] isn’t far from the lowest it’s been & it’s not far above the photosynthetic minimum.
I went back & re-read quite a chunk of literature & conversed with names that were publishing 10-25 years ago but aren’t any more. I expected I’d find good scientists with good ethics, who’d been booted out not for having the wrong kind of data, but talking about it.
The monomaniacal focus on one low concentration gas to the near complete exclusion of anything else & then the laughably attributed “anthropogenic global warming theory” on a single cause, screeching whenever anyone does a retrospective, is reminiscent of censorship re Covid (I’m a key recipient of that).
It’s not surprising that the methods & target types of censorship are so similar, because it’s the same ultimate stakeholders behind both & much more.
Great idea, but remember that people can always make rules that make living independently impossible. I was amazed at all the anti off grid rules that sprang up for tiny homes.
Yeah. Great. For those with money and skills to run away. I feel upset when I hear such suggestions. Go. Off you go. Leave those who can’t afford land in another country, or even to travel like that let alone the cost of the ‘start up’,; leave them to fight the battle alone. Leave behind the elderly, the infirm, the weak, and vulnerable. Go. Save yourselves. Great plan.
We can’t leave these people operating. Do you think they’ll just stop? We all have to stand and fight this together.
Great move!! In many ways, we need to do this. As I wrote in your telegram group, I'm not as positive about blockchain as you are (due to what I've read from Catherine Austin Fitts, who is brilliant and 100% on our side and into our making our own communities). I am 100% into our making our own communities and connections. At some point, we no longer need or desire or are willing to keep proving the proven (the dangers of the injections, etc), we need to put our energies into what gives us life.
Joel, I asked after you at the Better Way Conference where I met Clare Craig. I thought you might be there. I have followed your sage advice and words of wisdom since the beginning of covid. It is hard to say farewell to you. So I will only say thank you. You will be missed on substack. Even though I read the same evidence regarding the dangerous experimental biologicals, in different format, by numerous researchers, doctors and scientists, I always look for your confirmation. It is hard to accept your departure from substack. I have saved all your posts. You are a friend I never met in person, but so pleased to have known you.
Thank you, Mary Ann. I had tickets for the conference but messed up my childcare so couldn't go. I'm not leaving Substack, just slowing down a bit.
Re blockchain
I understand IBM and others are into it. As if they would a large mass to attain freedom. Nothing is more dangerous to control and tyranny than to allow freedom to flourish somewhere as freedom inspires oppressed people to aspire for it.
IBM and the other big cloud providers are focused on enterprise blockchain (where I still operate as it happens). Although the technology is similar, the ethos is very different. Essentially, private blockchains are more efficient and effective ways of running a business and serving customers, public blockchains allow networks of people to transact peer-to-peer with little to no reliance on public authorities to provide "safe" frameworks to do so.
What if they outlaw it? Like some have with cryptos.
I am not convinced that they will allow people to escape them that easily. That is why I regard bitcoin = bitcon.
They can't outlaw a technology. They can control products that masquerade as money and regulate the fiat gateways and brokers but they can never stop distributed networks from operating.
there was a huge missed opportunity with the advent of blockchain, and that was appreciating the philosophy behind the concept. that's the important takeaway that i see, and yes, there's no way to outlaw a concept like decentralization.
once a concept becomes tied to finance, like BitCoin, it becomes corrupted. that's my simplified observation.
Tell that to the farmers in the Netherlands.
What if a law requires all transactions be conducted via or through "approved" or "regulated" means only? Like in China?
In Wutoria,. Australia, there is a 2022 law - which I have not read - that, supposedly, prohibits the sharing of game meats!
Are these distributed networks?
https://toukanlabs.com/government.php
Looks kind of like monitoring networks to me.
I didn't say governments couldn't use the same technology for nefarious means, I said government can't take down networks with host nodes that are distributed.
23.01.2022
Weve selected 12 Australian health innovators to showcase their innovations to world hospital and healthcare leaders from Australian Healthcare & Hospitals Association... Toukan Labs ...
Joel.
I'm in somewhat agreement (might have noticed) but I have another concern here, why Uganda? Why not upstate New York?
Uganda? Zanzibar! Because of land rights and lack of big government.
Joel,
"They" follow the money in order to exploit and control. Have you noticed they don't give a bat's wing re the poor and homeless? Look at all the ghettos in the Dems States.
Not what's under the ground then?
https://www.miningweekly.com/article/blencowe-expanding-its-battery-metals-project-holdings-in-uganda-2022-02-22
And I'm sure that land rights will dominate this project of yours.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3168719/chinese-bank-imposes-aggressive-terms-over-uganda-airport-debt
What is the difference? They look the same to me!
$ per hectare no doubt. Also if you're going to do dystopian "anarchy" (ffs anarchists *do not* need blockchain) maybe an easily corruptible government is key.
In the last 6 months Substack has fallen behind. I'm disappointed. No longer at the cutting edge it is now the establishment with bitcoin bros on the make.
Joel, you’re among the cleverest people who I’ve been lucky enough to have jogged alongside for a while, early on in this crime!
I recall you & I had internally calibrated acceptance levels for when we weren’t willing any longer to play a diplomatic, long game and, to pursue different furrows, departed the prior team upon realisation that massed vaccination was associated with a pulse of deaths that we both considered highly likely to be causal. You took a helluva lot of flak over it. Since with Wolfgang Wodarg in December 2020, I’d already nailed my colours to the mast, I copped plenty, too,
I’m not fit & well enough to even want to cope long term outside of what passes for civilisation. I suffer chronic pain which is just manageable provided I have access to the meds which work for me & provided I have a reasonably stable environment in which I can adequately enough handle the personal care levels I must do to remain stable
If the wheels fall off, I want enough time to decide what I’m going to do: a few months at most, I’m reckoning.
It’s partly because there’s absolutely nothing for me if we all go down that I don’t mind what I say or do, provided I can justify my interpretations, inferences, conclusions & prognoses. I’ve never been physically brave but I could never stand injustices. There’s nothing they can do to intimidate me. It’s easier to be straightforward when you can see the end of the line!
One serious concern I have about even the best run independent communities is this. If I’m right that a bunch of psychopathic elites intend to launch (or rather, conclude) the 4th IR (& likely then depopulate), won’t the perpetrators simply tap up & take over, at their leisure?
I like the overall idea of a sustainable community without state intervention or control. I don't like using electronic instruments like blockchain to enforce rights and contracts. The recent collapse of bitcoin and the other crypto currencies and the fact that many crypto market makers are totally insolvent means that all the money you turn into blockchain electrons may be gone forever, depending on the needs and whims of the admin.
Cryptocurrencies are not blockchains. They run on blockchains but blockchains can be used for a lot, lot more. And not all blockchains are the same. Proof-of-Work blockchains are the most decentralised but also the most inefficient. There are other, more efficient blockchains if you compromise (a little) on decentralisation.
Ultimately you have to put your trust in the administrators of the Blockchain and because they are human they are vulnerable and potential targets.
Sounds interesting although I don’t understand enough about blockchain and crypto to see how that fits in with establishing local agriculture in small communities. Personally, my husband and I are escaping the big city to a 2 acre property where we plan on growing some food and having room to breathe. Parallel community/structures outside of the centralized government is what we hope to also tap into
Come join the Telegram community and find out! https://t.me/+pJoEfwigGRowNGI0
You're trying to convince with data people who 1) already made All Decisions based upon lobbying $ http://allaregreen.us/ & 2) already HAVE ALL the same data you have access to and have AGREED with you that the jabs are dangerous - which is why they exempted themselves from having to get them, https://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=Mh3aM&m=i4DAffTTzaYcSkU&b=iZY.YWLYlquZOA053LnALA.
How many more decades are you going to retain this delusion that 'Government' = Your Caring Father or is a Perfect Protector?
There IS NO such thing as 'Government.' There is ONLY http://allaregreen.us/ and us, who are supposed to hold them accountable, & you are, for some inexplicable reason begging them to police themselves.
While children die. You're retaining an infantile BELIEF while children die. Care to review your priorities here? The people taking that $ aren't going to admit they took it, that it affected their decisions OR give it back. That's why lobbying IS illegal, once you take it, you can do none of those things.
It's OUR JOB to fix this; Not theirs. There are SEVERAL legal avenues open to us here that can end the mandates & you, Reiner Fullermich & everyone else are AVOIDING them in favor of begging 'Daddy-Government' to please listen, when there IS NO such person as that. You are begging an Imaginary Entity to show 'He' cares when 'He' doesn't exist.
While children are dying.
i have!
I'm no expert either but in principle the blockchain is a ledger of account, so imagine a system that declares and records ownership/title, along with debts, payments etc etc, which does not require a government or lawyers to confirm.
It doesn't answer every problem, just those to do with record-keeping. Thing is, nail record-keeping and all kinds of trade and exchanges open up, which is the foundation of the original Bitcoin. It's not about the currency itself, it's that ultimately all exchanges and trades come down to record-keeping. For example your bank account is just a record.
i think you are right that a ledger-system is one of the core tenets, along with transparency and immutability. successfully implemented, it's a system that cannot be corrupted (as easily as legacy systems at least).
when multiple copies of this ledger exist, it becomes very difficult to modify and pretend like it's been that way all along. using the same philosophy, creating numerous versions of our "classic" way of human existence. detached from current captured institutions, will make it very difficult to do a mass formation psychosis type of thing on the public.
Hyperlocalism, aka "The Benedict Option"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Benedict_Option
I would be interested but have already committed through permaculture design.
Keep up the interesting ideas!
Permaculture is essential. We could do with your skills. Please join the community! https://t.me/+pJoEfwigGRowNGI0
Not on Telegram sorry.
"Obtain land in a country with inalienable land rights"
Does such a country exist in this world?
I love the idea. There’s a main plank missing & it’s Defence. People behave better when they know rules are kept. And communities can’t relax if they feel that invasion is likely.
Interesting. I long ago wrote a business plan with a friend, Nick Raumm, for such a community, a project we called SUN, Sustaining Universal Needs. I am going to see Nick this weekend and next week, at Placke Organic Farm in southern Wisconsin, which he and his wife Kelly operate.
What you are talking about sounds like the theory of anarchy maturing, which I am writing about currently. I will be eager to hear about your progress.
Yes, nowadays, I would describe myself as a good anarchist! Would love to have you in the group.
Anarchy in the UK
Verity (the truth) seems to have discovered the same thing that I have.
https://twitter.com/SharpeVerity/status/1421867877007757314
Johnny Lydon style anarchy is just arch capitalism.
I am not sure that’s the same person.
I've written on it.
https://plebeianresistance.substack.com/p/before-you-get-involved-in-any-joel
I followed the link provided in the comments, having never used telegram, but nothing happened
What's your Telegram nickname? I'll add you.
Well, that is unfortunate. Telegram continues to say they have sent me a message, but nothing has shown up after several attempts to log in on both the computer and phone. I am not finding Telegram particularly simple or user friendly. Sorry.
Have you checked your spam?!
nothing in spam. No sms messages. everything I have tried with telegram is leading to a dead end. I even restarted my phone. I am not a techie, but I am not a neophyte either...
I suppose it would be WHD, though I am typing on my new Linux Ubuntu System 76, I supposedly downloaded Telegram but I am having some difficulty figuring it out.
Did you get it from the Ubuntu Software Store or download the .deb?
I got in! Wow, that was way more problematic than any app I have ever downloaded.
My android phone was blocking the download. Now downloaded, I try to log in on the computer, it asks for my phone number to log in, it replies, too many tries, try again later. Nuts.
At 420ppm CO2, loss of polar ice, loss of Gulf Stream, loss of jet-stream, loss of Ocean fish, loss is pollinators, loss of fresh water, loss of land fill, loss of topsoil, loss of energy, loss of biodiversity, loss of Amazon, spillover of diseases from land reclamation, loss of supply chains, loss of global order, loss of social cohesion, resource wars for water and oil etc. We are no longer talking about the luxury of choice, we are talking about the loss of options and inevitable transition from socially driven systems to binary systems that do not need to breath air, aka, China’s surveillance state. Think Uyghurs!
I don’t recognise what you’re claiming as even faintly approximating reality.
The globe hasn’t significantly warmed in the modern era & it’s distinctly refusing to follow changes in atmospheric [CO2] which is definitely greater now than when I was born, by around a third.
Historically atmospheric [CO2] isn’t far from the lowest it’s been & it’s not far above the photosynthetic minimum.
I went back & re-read quite a chunk of literature & conversed with names that were publishing 10-25 years ago but aren’t any more. I expected I’d find good scientists with good ethics, who’d been booted out not for having the wrong kind of data, but talking about it.
The monomaniacal focus on one low concentration gas to the near complete exclusion of anything else & then the laughably attributed “anthropogenic global warming theory” on a single cause, screeching whenever anyone does a retrospective, is reminiscent of censorship re Covid (I’m a key recipient of that).
It’s not surprising that the methods & target types of censorship are so similar, because it’s the same ultimate stakeholders behind both & much more.
This very interesting. I am intending to do my own research, but can you give some specific examples of small communities like this that are working?
Yes, there are a few links provided by members in the Telegram Group - https://t.me/+pJoEfwigGRowNGI0
"a country with inalienable land rights"?
Great idea, but remember that people can always make rules that make living independently impossible. I was amazed at all the anti off grid rules that sprang up for tiny homes.
Yeah. Great. For those with money and skills to run away. I feel upset when I hear such suggestions. Go. Off you go. Leave those who can’t afford land in another country, or even to travel like that let alone the cost of the ‘start up’,; leave them to fight the battle alone. Leave behind the elderly, the infirm, the weak, and vulnerable. Go. Save yourselves. Great plan.
We can’t leave these people operating. Do you think they’ll just stop? We all have to stand and fight this together.