I'm not a "numbers" person or a stats or graphs one but...even I can see and understand those and my "expert opinion" (because we're all experts these days and my opinion is as good as anyone 's!) is that these odd death peaks are medical. You can argue that men used to smoke and had dangerous jobs and maybe women died in childbirth but, since the 1980s (and maybe before) the smoking men were dead and the women who were dying certainly weren't dying in childbirth. Speaking from my own experience with parents born in 1928 and 1929, they died in their late 80s but they were on so much medication towards the end that I could have become a drug dealer! They were given medication for things they didn't have in order to avoid them having whatever it was (blood pressure tablets with no high blood pressure, anti-depressants because "old people often get depressed"). They took tablets without knowing what they were for but took them because the doctor told them too. My mother died of old age in spite of all the medication but her last years were miserable because the health care system assured her she was ill and continuously tested her to see what they could find (nothing but they still gave her tablets). Everybody dies but many people die miserably and drugged up because the doctors try to keep them alive (except when there's a pandemic, obviously)!
For the billions we provide to these "health" agencies, it would be nice if ANY of them would do this work, INSTEAD OF what they are doing,....which is fighting to prevent these numbers ever being seen, let alone understood.
Although your data is UK, I imagine same mortality trends would be found in US, though I suspetc worse thanks to the Medical Machine which took off 1900s onwards when they had an injection of funding by Carnegie, Rockefeller with a dash of JP Morgan.
Abraham Flexner (Carnegie Foundation) took over American Medical Association's (eliminate the competition) project and released The Flexner Report 1910, which became the justification for changing Medical Education and Hospitals (i.e. eliminating the "new" competititon and force people to use allopaths who tended to have a higher mortality rate)
Dr Simon Flexner (brother) worked with Rockefeller Jr and Fredrick Gates (Gates of Hell!) and helped develop and push vaccines, anti-toxins, surgery etc.
''Just look at 2015! Both men and women are seriously in excess.''
Yes, big year for excess deaths in Scotland. The death rate/1000 in 90+ was HIGHER between 2014-15 seasons than it was for 2019-2020 inc COVID which is said to prey predominantly on the very elderly.
More proof COVID was a fraud. The real killer in 2020 was the lockdowns.
NEW-Psychiatry International | peer-reviewed
''In conclusion, significant negative lockdown effects on mood, quality of life and immune fitness were observed across the population''
''Depression, loneliness most pronounced among younger individuals''
Could it be... that THEY understood the implications of having too much 'dead wood' in the system (too many people living too long and burdening the economy... see Japan where you end up with too many retired people and not enough working age folks to support them...) which would result in collapse of the system....
Sooooo... they decided to implement a range of policies that included vaccines... a food pyramid guaranteed to promote heart disease and diabetes (hands up if you thought eating whole grain bread was a healthy pursuit)... telling us fat causes heart disease when actually sugar/carbs is the problem... foisting all sorts of toxic processed foods on the masses... etc etc etc....
For the purpose of culling the herd... and ensuring billions did not live into their 90's.
The one fly in my ointment is the push to stop smoking ... that's a great herd culler... perhaps one of their think tanks determined that promoting smoking was a bit too harsh ... and that it was killing too many too early... I am only a one person think tank so I do not have access to the research that these big outfits have that drives the decisions of the Men Who Run the World.
Fascinating! Looks like 'progress' in medicine is once again bad for our health.
Safe anDeffective🍻👍
Very interesting Joel - thanks for doing all of this work.
Excess deaths now have a seat in cabinet
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/esther-mcveys-return-government-confirmed-28100430
https://www.esthermcvey.com/news/esther-mcvey-mp-returns-issue-excess-deaths-post-covid-dhsc-questions-house
I'm not a "numbers" person or a stats or graphs one but...even I can see and understand those and my "expert opinion" (because we're all experts these days and my opinion is as good as anyone 's!) is that these odd death peaks are medical. You can argue that men used to smoke and had dangerous jobs and maybe women died in childbirth but, since the 1980s (and maybe before) the smoking men were dead and the women who were dying certainly weren't dying in childbirth. Speaking from my own experience with parents born in 1928 and 1929, they died in their late 80s but they were on so much medication towards the end that I could have become a drug dealer! They were given medication for things they didn't have in order to avoid them having whatever it was (blood pressure tablets with no high blood pressure, anti-depressants because "old people often get depressed"). They took tablets without knowing what they were for but took them because the doctor told them too. My mother died of old age in spite of all the medication but her last years were miserable because the health care system assured her she was ill and continuously tested her to see what they could find (nothing but they still gave her tablets). Everybody dies but many people die miserably and drugged up because the doctors try to keep them alive (except when there's a pandemic, obviously)!
Why are they short staffed? Covid vaccines? 🤔😉
Or people leaving cause they realise they were being made to doctor the results?😳🤔
For the billions we provide to these "health" agencies, it would be nice if ANY of them would do this work, INSTEAD OF what they are doing,....which is fighting to prevent these numbers ever being seen, let alone understood.
By the way, someone told me that the Church, a long time ago, kept very good records, and that those records showed clergy living to 150.
Do you know about that?
Have you seen those records?
Thank you for all of the work you put into this. Really insightful. Thank you, thank you!
Although your data is UK, I imagine same mortality trends would be found in US, though I suspetc worse thanks to the Medical Machine which took off 1900s onwards when they had an injection of funding by Carnegie, Rockefeller with a dash of JP Morgan.
https://totalityofevidence.com/pandemic-timeline/pre-pandemic-1900-1945/
Abraham Flexner (Carnegie Foundation) took over American Medical Association's (eliminate the competition) project and released The Flexner Report 1910, which became the justification for changing Medical Education and Hospitals (i.e. eliminating the "new" competititon and force people to use allopaths who tended to have a higher mortality rate)
https://totalityofevidence.substack.com/p/hidden-knowledge-part-4-life-insurance
Dr Simon Flexner (brother) worked with Rockefeller Jr and Fredrick Gates (Gates of Hell!) and helped develop and push vaccines, anti-toxins, surgery etc.
History leaves clues!
The age of computerization where it takes longer than ever to secure data and info.
''Just look at 2015! Both men and women are seriously in excess.''
Yes, big year for excess deaths in Scotland. The death rate/1000 in 90+ was HIGHER between 2014-15 seasons than it was for 2019-2020 inc COVID which is said to prey predominantly on the very elderly.
More proof COVID was a fraud. The real killer in 2020 was the lockdowns.
NEW-Psychiatry International | peer-reviewed
''In conclusion, significant negative lockdown effects on mood, quality of life and immune fitness were observed across the population''
''Depression, loneliness most pronounced among younger individuals''
https://www.mdpi.com/2673-5318/4/4/30
Awesome Joel.
I'd really like to apply your method to German data, if I can get ahold of the necessary datasets.
https://timothywiney.substack.com/p/its-the-most-wonderful-time-of-the?utm_source=activity_item
Could it be... that THEY understood the implications of having too much 'dead wood' in the system (too many people living too long and burdening the economy... see Japan where you end up with too many retired people and not enough working age folks to support them...) which would result in collapse of the system....
Sooooo... they decided to implement a range of policies that included vaccines... a food pyramid guaranteed to promote heart disease and diabetes (hands up if you thought eating whole grain bread was a healthy pursuit)... telling us fat causes heart disease when actually sugar/carbs is the problem... foisting all sorts of toxic processed foods on the masses... etc etc etc....
For the purpose of culling the herd... and ensuring billions did not live into their 90's.
The one fly in my ointment is the push to stop smoking ... that's a great herd culler... perhaps one of their think tanks determined that promoting smoking was a bit too harsh ... and that it was killing too many too early... I am only a one person think tank so I do not have access to the research that these big outfits have that drives the decisions of the Men Who Run the World.
Really nice analysis. A couple of techie qns and a suggestion:
1. How do the best-fit Gompertz shape and scale parameters vary across these cohorts?
2. Have you tried a Gompertz-Makeham model to quantify age-independent "trends"?
3. Please submit this to the ongoing ONS consultation on modelling "excess deaths"! https://blog.ons.gov.uk/2023/02/10/how-do-we-measure-expected-and-excess-deaths/